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Right. Befpre I go and top meself after reading this lot, 5-0 to us, and we'll play brilliantly.

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N'gog has got to bloody start if he is fit.


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Originally Posted By: wakka
N'gog has got to bloody start if he is fit.


I agree, interesting that the two subs appearances against Sunderland and Manu he changed the game. Not because he was brilliant but just because of his movement. Allowing Torres to deal with only one defender. If Roy played 3 centre mids and allowed Cole to roam behind Torres and Ngog it could be even more dynamic.
Man is too negative for that that kind of selection though.

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I was really suprised he didn't get the nod ahead of Torres or partner him as he has been great in the E.L recently.


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Roy did field 4-4-2 against city, result city 3 LFC 0. It takes time to change a style of a team. We are not ready to play 4-4-2 yet but u can see Roy change to 4-4-2 only in second half when the players start teaming up well. Roy did try a different way against FC Utretch, Kuyt was switching on the wings and in the centre, At a certain moment Kuyt was up-front with Torres. hopefully, ROme was built in a day for many people i see. I'm wondering we can have 365-366 Romes in a year. LOL


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Originally Posted By: Die hard scouser
Roy did field 4-4-2 against city, result city 3 LFC 0. It takes time to change a style of a team. We are not ready to play 4-4-2 yet but u can see Roy change to 4-4-2 only in second half when the players start teaming up well. Roy did try a different way against FC Utretch, Kuyt was switching on the wings and in the centre, At a certain moment Kuyt was up-front with Torres. hopefully, ROme was built in a day for many people i see. I'm wondering we can have 365-366 Romes in a year. LOL


Yes it must be quite difficult to get a team routed on pass and move to change their style into [oops] it up field and try nick a goal. Hopefully this major transition won't take too long. Carra's picking it up quite nicely.

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Die hard , you don't think that its the other way round and the players started connecting after the system changed to 442? That was my perception of the match. Should always have at least 2 strikers up front if you want to win a match, No wonder torres doesnt score when he has his back to 4 defenders and no other striker to stretch the play. I understand that its a 'riskier' formation than hodgsons preferred choice but 4 4 2 works but I feel that in a 4 4 2 we need an aggressive midfielder to break their play down when our team loses the ball in attack. We have got the mighty poulson however. Ngog has made progress and I would have him if not pacheo if possible up front with torres. IF the midfield isnt good enough sobeit we will lose every match but at least we will have tried to win the game . I think gerard and meireles in the centre and admittedly Coles not a winger but we havent had a winger since john barnes!
I think with the city result the 'excuse' was that maschaerano pulled out of the team at the last moment.

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The key to 4-2-3-1 is to defend a high line and press the opposition - Roy's teams do neither, never have and never will. We also see a holding midfielder in the hole when we bought Cole to perform that job. The wings and man in the hole are there to prevent the striker being isolated - they achieve this by pressing the opposition while we defend a high line, with one or more people to break up opposition play. But we're not deployed in that way: we sit back and don't press, which forces the attacking players deeper and leaves Torres on his own.

It's important to remember that Gerrard's goal vs Sunderland came from Torres beating a man against the touchline and crossing from the byline. I'm sure you can count in one hand the number of times any other player in the squad has done that this season so far.

The reason N'Gog has been effective as a substitute (particularly vs Man U) was because we established Gerrard, Poulsen and Meireles in the middle of the pitch [for a brief period], at which time we actually looked like we might have a clue about playing this game. Cole also drifted infield during that game (planned or otherwise), setting up a pseudo-diamond 4-4-2. We weren't good because of N'Gog; we were good because suddenly everyone was playing in a natural position. Football is a team sport, and you live or die as a team.

I agree with House MD. For me, 4-3-3 is the shape we best aspire to, and especially with his choice of Pacheco. But Roy isn't going to pick that formation. Ever. Unless we can change to Roy's style in a hurry, the players are going to lose interest in playing for him, just as they lost interest in Rafa (though for different reasons), and then he'll be on a hiding to nothing.

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Its all just simple logics that can't get through Roy's scull

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the point roy is missing is if he picked a team and could man manage them with the right style. TO FOOKING ATTACK WHEN WE HAVE THE BALL, the fans would not be so piissed off. its the negative tactics that are winding me up, he is worse than rafa ever was, we made a few chances with him......


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