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#77821 20/09/10 09:54 AM
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I was really looking forward to the game with UTD for many reasons but one of them was to see how we would play without Kuyt. I can't remember the last time we played without him....

I think Kuyt would have helped to contained Giggs as Maxi did absoltutely nothing.

I was hoping another player would prove that they are better on the wing than Kuyt, so he could be used as a striker. But if all we got is Maxi, then Kuyt is going to have to stay there for a while.

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Kuyt is a vital player and we need him back asap. He always has something to contribute to the team. I hope he comes back in time for the derby, He always scores a couple there.


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Would Kelly have been good enough to contain Giggs? If so, then Johnson should start as RM: he's a terrible defender anyway, and tends to get further forward than whoever starts as RM, so I can't see how pushing him forward can make him worse.

But, yes, defensively we certainly miss Kuyt. Having said that though, we could afford to defend a higher line so that our forwards and midfielders are not so far apart; I believe we've been standing way too deep. I would also urge Roy to try a game with neither Poulsen nor Lucas in the starting XI - we need Raul and Gerrard as our midfield engine and the sooner they get used to one another the better.

----------------Reina--------------------
-----Kelly--Greek---Agger----Konchesky---
--Johnson-Gerrard-Poulsen-Meireles-Cole--
----------------Torres-------------------

Gerrard and Raul to roam, and Poulsen to come off when we need to attack, shuffling Cole if necessary. This is a departure from what I have suggested before on these forums, and that is simply because I've realized we don't have the midfielder and wide player combinations to play any other formation other than 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard behind Torres. If we start Poulsen then Cole must be on the wing or the bench, unless we go for a diamond 4-4-2 with Babel and Torres up front (I do not think N'gog is suited to 4-4-2 unless he plays off the last shoulder, as his hold-up play still needs work). If Kuyt is fit then he replaces one of the wide players (probably Cole), which just goes to show how weak we are because he's not a player I really want in my line-up.

My most prominent thought though is that Gerrard or preferably Meireles must replace Poulsen in the starting line-up and Lucas must go play for the reserves. That will allow players like Shelvey, Pacheco, Suso, and Amoo space to move into the side; right now there is no room for them, and there will be less when Kuyt is fit.

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You need attacking threat on the wings, all the best teams have that, you need pace there.

Kelly-Carra-Agger-Konchesky

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Johnson-----Torres------Cole

Johnson is the best ride sider at beating a man we have so he gets moved up to RM, Cole is on the left because I don't think we have anyone of any quality there, so Cole goes there even though he lacks pace. Gerrard plays further forward than the other 2. That to me is what will give Torres service.

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i dont think we miss kuyt. only because maxi is shockingly bad doesnt mean we miss a talentless kuyt. what we really miss is a proper winger, as we dont have one i would play johnson or babel on the right

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Do you really think Roy will plan to be that aggressive tho? I like 4-3-3 but I just can't see him committing to it.

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what exactly did Giggs do? can`t remember any surging runs, crosses or shots at goal. Unfortunately Maxi has to cover Johnson because he is so bad.! I can`t understand the logic at all of the play him further forward brigade, he is no better going forward than defending which is a major problem.

As for Kuyts absence, great isn`t it.!

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im far from kuyts biggest fan but he's so much better than maxi. i hope he's back soon because maxi is clearly not good enough. give pacheco or someone like amoo the chance against sunderland and blackpool instead of maxi.


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kop_swede #78049 21/09/10 05:21 PM
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I agree mazi is just not coming off on the attacking front so play somebody else, Babel looked sharper the last time out, give him a go. Don`t care for him much either but at least he will cross the center line.

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sorry typing while eating.! Maxi not Mazi

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