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Keep him , keep him, keep him. It'll cost us the league if he goes.

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calm down you lot!

if Rafa sells Alonso it'll only be cos Alonso wants to go. Does Rafa not let him and end up with a sulking player for the rest of the season, spreading negative vibes through the squad?

As for Rafa being a big hoof manager Emp - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! do be brief mate! You really do type some strange toot on here frown

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emperor. Rafa knows that he doesn't have enough cash to compete with other clubs, so he tried to build the best team he can with the budget he has. this explains why in every transfer window, we are linked with hundreds of players.

Rafa's philosophy is that a solid, and balanced team is the base for every successful club. in addition to the solidity, you can add creativity to get the desired results. but Rafa also relies a lot on the player's mentality. for example, look at Carragher as a player. he is technically limited, but his mentality made him improve year after year until he became a world class centreback. Kuyt as well, he is technically limited, but his hard work and determination made him the "useful" player he is know, even though we sometimes feel that he is not good enough.

he is a cautious manager, and sometimes he makes the strangest decisions. but you don't judge a manager (or in fact, any person) for his occasional mistakes, but on his work in general.

if you look at Wenger, he has a great scouting system, he knows how to develop youths, but he is too stubborn. he is relying too much on youngsters, when he really needs to add some experienced players to guide them to success. he has refused to buy these kinds of players, which explains Arsenal's unstable performances.

Ferguson is the most successful manager of the past 2 decades, he is great in building teams and has proven himself over and over again no matter how much we hate him. but he also started with Ji Song Park in the CL final, while Tevez was warming the bench.

every manager has his ups and downs. Rafa has proved that his only real problem is cash, not his ideas. so lets wait and hope for the best.

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rafa is anything but a hoof ball manager - his philosophy is keep the ball not hoof it up the field at all - that was houllier's mo and rafa has spent years removing that cancer from the club

did you ever see his valencia team play? im guessing not

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go and watch the champions league final again then tell me united don't give the ball away cheaply!! they did nothing but give the ball away in that game

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Rafa has spoken about being more attack minded recently and that players like Johnson will help break down 10 men behind the ball when teams come to Anfield to play for a draw.
You can see the last 10 or so games of last seaosn we were the best attacking side in the country.
Alonso wants to go and Rafa is playing hard ball-why should we let a player with 3 years left of his contract go for less than the amount quoted.
I hope this transfer saga comes to some conclusion by the weekend.

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as if any Liverpool side would give the ball away on purpose
you are making no sense at all.
Johnson has said one of the reasons he came to the reds was because Rafa can improve him as a player and he does so with each player we have.
Not like Torres was scoring at such a high ratio when he was at Atletico and no one knew much about Alonso before he arrived.
Have some faith

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No one is irreplacable Emp, especially if we get lots of money for them.

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We haven't seen Alonso paraded in a Real shirt...at this stage he is still with us...if he does go then we move on and hopefully fill the gaping hole he leaves behind but if he wants to go then why keep him! Look what happened last season when we had players like Gerrard and Torres out of the side...we had no one to rely on to get us going and that inspired others to step up and play better football. No one is irreplacable! If he goes it gives someone else a chance to step up. Rafa is playing hard ball to keep the price up so we can replace him, if the deal goes through, with another high quality player. He is playing his cards right IMO.
I still hope he stays though!

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The rumours are that we will be in for Ribery if we sell him. Is that good enough for you Emp. I know he isn't the same type of player but it is certainly adding quality. Having said that, I too, like Laz, want him to stay.

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