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I fecking loved those things, what happened to them?? Bring back the club!

Yes agree with that they do have preferences but if it comes to whats best for there career, prefrences go out the window. If you are a footballer and train all your life to reach the top of your profesion chances to play for mythical clubs like United, Barca and Real Madrid only come around for a chosen few players and for that reason you have to grabb the chance whenever it comes along otherwise it becomes the biggest regret of your career. Imagine say Fernando Torres knocked back Real Madrid just because he supported a rival club and ended up not winning a single trophy for the rest of his career how do you think he would feel about that, his whole career which he had worked so hard for would of become a waste if Real had gone on to win league titles and Champions leagues, thats why any footballer would be mad to let the fact that you supported your rivals stop you achieving great things with your career.

jaysus. blast from the past.

I dont think all footballers choose clubs based on 'whats their best for their career'. 99% of footballers do it for a job and earn money and they dont really care about winning things. Other things such as family and stuff comes into play. So i disagree with you saying preferences go out of the window when Madrid chase you or whoever. Personally i would play for liverpool for a free for the whole of my career if i was given the chance and wouldnt care a damn about Madrid because its not just about joining the best and winning things,there are other factors involved.

I know thats the point I am making, we as fans think differently from footballers, you tell me a footballer playing in the Premiership who would play for a club for free just because he supported them, exactly, none whatsoever, we on the otherhand would probably play for nothing. If you dropped Carraghers wages down by about 30k he would leave, even if he did enjoy playing for the club, came from the area and his family were settled same goes for Gerrard and Torres because they are in it for the money, success or both, last thing would be because they support a club.

We as fans defintly think differently from players and you r right there mate. I dont know about Carra leaving tho he absolutley loves the club even wages dropped but then again we will never know.

Yeah I know exactly what you mean about Carragher if there was a player you would say it does'nt apply to it would probably be him, the thing about Jamie is though is that he an Evertonian, thats the way his family have brought him up and until he started playing for Liverpool reserves on Saturdays he would be a regular with his mates at Goodison Park, that makes him a turncoat which is the worst type of supporter you can get. That is the point I am making about players and how there careers are more important than who they support. I will throw this one at you, If Manchester United for whatever reason wanted to sell Wayne Rooney and Liverpool threw a bid in for him do you honestly think being once a blue always a blue would stop him joining us if we could match what he wanted money and success wise because I for one reckon he would deffo sign.

Thing is though for carragher is that it was the start of career so he had no history for any other club and if i was in his situation ofcourse i would of joined up with liverpool because it was probably the only chance he had to kickstart his career. That is a different scenerio tho with torres who had played for athletico who are the rivals of real. Its like saying gerrard is joining up with everton. won't happen and never will but this s just my opinion ofcourse, im no expert. On the rooney question i think he will never join us regardless of the situation as he has stated two seasons ago that he hates liverpool.

I would'nt think Gerrard would think of joining up with Everton for the simple fact they would never be able to offer him the things he would want in his career. I think the best players would move from Everton to Liverpool, City to United, West Ham to Arsenal or Espanyol to Barca and Athletico to Real Madrid, the only time the reverse usualy happens is when those players are coming to the end of there careers like bit like Andy Cole, Peter Schmeichel, Peter Beardsley, Nigel Winterburn e.t.c.
Footballers are just employees they play for whoever they can get the best deal for them and there families, I think if Torres was to go it would be to one of three teams City because of there money, Real Madrid because they play in his hoetown, have the best manager, some of the best players in the world, want the same success as he wants and will pay him an obscene amount of money and finaly I firmly believe if he indicated he wanted to leave, United would come in for him for the same reason as Madrid plus the fact they need a partner for Rooney and that would be a dream partnership, think he would go to United before Madrid though and favour a move there before City and Chelsea.