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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Refereeing decisions have cost us this season, we should be on 25 points so its harsh to blame Klopp.


Yeah. Not blaming Klopp... bad decisions cost us against Brighton and Everton. Villa game was a blip. Having said that, some might say we lacked focus.

But now that all the teams are bunched up at the top Klopp needs to be wary of the tactics of some of our rivals on and off the pitch. Next home game will be a huge test.


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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Snakeye
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Salah poor yet is top scorer while Mane has 4 goals only and has been average bar one or two games but you keep going with your Salah agenda. You only critique Salah, no one else, coincidence? I think not.


What does that mean? Hope you man up to say what you mean
Otherwise Salah has so many goals because he is on penalties and you go and read almost all articles, Mane has been our best player lately, including last season. Of course I will be critical of Salah, he could be much better if he wanted, you must be blind if you cant see that. Who else do you want me to criticise, I've done it for Adian, Tiago and even TAA this season, who else?


You love Mane so much and believe he is 2, 3 times better than Salah but in reality he is not that much different and Salah always delivers with more goals, the problem is you always compare his first season and say he is poor this season and list it as a main problem when in reality only Messi can do these numbers from his first season. You use his first season numbers as a stick to beat him with and it's annoying.


I was critical to Salah, because of the way he played which is well below his potential and this doesn't have anything to do with Mane. And saying I am critical to Salah ,NO ONE ELSE, is a huge lie, no need to hide behind Mane.


The reason I brought Mane up is you wax lyrical about him and talk down Salah on every opportunity you get which annoys me, you been doing this for quite some time too. Fans mention injuries and refereeing decisions to our difficult start but you always put Salah in there as a key reason even tho he is scoring and assisting virtually every game so I don't know what else the man can do? If anything your anger should be pointed to Firmino who has been a passenger not at a guy who contributes every time he steps on the field.


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Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
Originally Posted By Snakeye
Refereeing decisions have cost us this season, we should be on 25 points so its harsh to blame Klopp.


Yeah. Not blaming Klopp... bad decisions cost us against Brighton and Everton. Villa game was a blip. Having said that, some might say we lacked focus.

But now that all the teams are bunched up at the top Klopp needs to be wary of the tactics of some of our rivals on and off the pitch. Next home game will be a huge test.


I honestly understand where your coming from because both Mourinho and Lampard have thrown a few digs at us and you would suspect Mourinho will start the mind games soon with that game coming up. I'd love it if Klopp does a pep and just answers with yes or no to these stupid questions but unfortunately he is too nice and just keeps answering. I do agree that it becomes an issue if he keeps banging on the same drum but Klopp is not stupid either, I think he has used the 5 subs topic to also deflect away from some poor performances.


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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Snakeye
Salah poor yet is top scorer while Mane has 4 goals only and has been average bar one or two games but you keep going with your Salah agenda. You only critique Salah, no one else, coincidence? I think not.


What does that mean? Hope you man up to say what you mean
Otherwise Salah has so many goals because he is on penalties and you go and read almost all articles, Mane has been our best player lately, including last season. Of course I will be critical of Salah, he could be much better if he wanted, you must be blind if you cant see that. Who else do you want me to criticise, I've done it for Adian, Tiago and even TAA this season, who else?



Salah have 5 penalties scored in the PL this season and even you took out all the penalties, he still managed to score 4 goals, which is equal to the number of goals scored by Mane.

Besides, Salah has created 5 big chances and has 2 assists during the season according to the official PL websites. (Mane has created 2 big chances and has 1 assist on his book at the same time.)

And to be frank, I don't even think it is fair to ignore those penalties goals too. Convert 5 penalties without a miss is not that easy.


I don't know how come you have the conclusion that Mane has been our best player lately while Salah is below standard.

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Originally Posted By Liverotto
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Snakeye
Salah poor yet is top scorer while Mane has 4 goals only and has been average bar one or two games but you keep going with your Salah agenda. You only critique Salah, no one else, coincidence? I think not.


What does that mean? Hope you man up to say what you mean
Otherwise Salah has so many goals because he is on penalties and you go and read almost all articles, Mane has been our best player lately, including last season. Of course I will be critical of Salah, he could be much better if he wanted, you must be blind if you cant see that. Who else do you want me to criticise, I've done it for Adian, Tiago and even TAA this season, who else?



Salah have 5 penalties scored in the PL this season and even you took out all the penalties, he still managed to score 4 goals, which is equal to the number of goals scored by Mane.

Besides, Salah has created 5 big chances and has 2 assists during the season according to the official PL websites. (Mane has created 2 big chances and has 1 assist on his book at the same time.)

And to be frank, I don't even think it is fair to ignore those penalties goals too. Convert 5 penalties without a miss is not that easy.


I don't know how come you have the conclusion that Mane has been our best player lately while Salah is below standard.




Lately was last season and Salah has been below his own standard, do you deny that? And the point was that I was told that I am only critical of Salah which is a blatant lie

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Last season was our title winning season, everyone was on fire including Mane,Vvd, Robertson, Arnold, Hendo, Salah, Alison etc, however we were discussing this season and based on stats, you can't fault him and his contributions.


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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Last season was our title winning season, everyone was on fire including Mane,Vvd, Robertson, Arnold, Hendo, Salah, Alison etc, however we were discussing this season and based on stats, you can't fault him and his contributions.


Are you saying Salah has been performing according to his best this season? My comments came after I watched the Ajax game, was he all fine to you?

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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Snakeye
Last season was our title winning season, everyone was on fire including Mane,Vvd, Robertson, Arnold, Hendo, Salah, Alison etc, however we were discussing this season and based on stats, you can't fault him and his contributions.


Are you saying Salah has been performing according to his best this season? My comments came after I watched the Ajax game, was he all fine to you?


Of course not but due to no pre season and a game every days with no training just recovery you can say that about most of our players. His stats speak for themselves however.


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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Snakeye
Last season was our title winning season, everyone was on fire including Mane,Vvd, Robertson, Arnold, Hendo, Salah, Alison etc, however we were discussing this season and based on stats, you can't fault him and his contributions.


Are you saying Salah has been performing according to his best this season? My comments came after I watched the Ajax game, was he all fine to you?


Of course not but due to no pre season and a game every days with no training just recovery you can say that about most of our players. His stats speak for themselves however.


There are no stats about not passing the ball when somebody else is in a better position though, there must be a reason why Mane was so upset and even the newcomer Jota experienced it, remember when Salah took the ball off his foot in front of the goal. This is quite obvious when you are watching the game. Salah has great skills, thus his great stats, but he could easily be better, that's the point.

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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Salah poor yet is top scorer while Mane has 4 goals only and has been average bar one or two games but you keep going with your Salah agenda. You only critique Salah, no one else, coincidence? I think not.


What does that mean? Hope you man up to say what you mean
Otherwise Salah has so many goals because he is on penalties and you go and read almost all articles, Mane has been our best player lately, including last season. Of course I will be critical of Salah, he could be much better if he wanted, you must be blind if you cant see that. Who else do you want me to criticise, I've done it for Adian, Tiago and even TAA this season, who else?



Salah have 5 penalties scored in the PL this season and even you took out all the penalties, he still managed to score 4 goals, which is equal to the number of goals scored by Mane.

Besides, Salah has created 5 big chances and has 2 assists during the season according to the official PL websites. (Mane has created 2 big chances and has 1 assist on his book at the same time.)

And to be frank, I don't even think it is fair to ignore those penalties goals too. Convert 5 penalties without a miss is not that easy.


I don't know how come you have the conclusion that Mane has been our best player lately while Salah is below standard.




Lately was last season and Salah has been below his own standard, do you deny that? And the point was that I was told that I am only critical of Salah which is a blatant lie


I cannot agree with you.
Last season, Salah had 19 goals, 10 assists and 13 big chances created; whereas Mane had 18 goals, 7 assists and 10 big chances.

And you told me that Mane is the top performer of the team and Salah is below average?

Is it a double standard?

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