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Oh dear. To suggest a top class manager isn’t ‘strengthening’ just so he doesn’t get sacked is bonkers beyond belief. If you truly believe that then you must have stopped supporting him.

But again, crazy thought I know, he sees the players day in day out. He knows their strengths. He knows their weaknesses. He knows what he’s got infinity more than any of us and also what’s out there in the market. I for one trust his judgement on both counts and it’ll be the reason we’ve not spent not some made up conspiracy theory that he’s not spending to keep his job safe.

Bonkers.

I told you if it is his decision not forcing to sign reinforcement of course, otherwise I can't see why? On a scale of 1 to 10 and assuming Mane is on 8.5, how much would you give Origi as left winger as he played/s in Mane's position when the latter is unfit?

What you’re suggesting is that Klopp is putting his needs above that of the club? Is that right?

And we all know Origi isn’t as good as Mane. Klopp knows it too. But he doesn’t have to be and we wouldn’t get anyone as good either to warm his tooshie on the bench. I know you have this fabled notion of rotation but football don’t work that way and neither does Klopp

Think we need a sub keeper now.

Mignolet has finally gone. Saved a penalty bon his debut bad it's been downhill ever since.

I'm glad he's finally gone.

So why does he have so many midfielders with only 3 playing every game if it is not for rotation? Probably we won't get somebody as good as Mane, but I am dead sure we will get much better than Origi on that left wing. I can understand Origi can offer something different as CF but he is no winger.

Klopp is not putting his needs above that of the club but aligning the objectives with the hierarchy which is minimum possible spend to stay competitive, ie, top 4, anything else is a bonus.

You were suggesting Klopp wasn’t spending so it’s harder for him to be sacked? Changing that stance now then?

The problem with playing Origi is that we try and use him as a Mane type player which he isn’t. He’s more a CF so if we play him then we have to adapt to that which we don’t. He’s proved he can score and be in the right place at the right time but has to be used properly.

Not changing anything, if the hierarchy prefers not to spend big (even if money is available), Klopp is not forcing the issue and thus doesn't really need to win the title to keep his job unlike managers at Barca, Real Madrid, PSG, City, Chelsea, United. In those clubs the first objective is to win titles a couple of seasons maximum since being recruited and for that the manager is given the resources.

At LFC and probably Arsenal and Spurs, the objective is top 4 with less resources, so pressure to win the league is almost non existent except from the majority of fans (not all I agree). It seems to me that Klopp is happy with that, ie, less pressure from his bosses.

Our performance yesterday was reasonable however the end result was an indication that in The EPL we are still playing catch up to City, now made even worse by selling our experienced GoalKeeping backup 4 days before the summer transfer window closes, defying belief!

In terms of a boxing match, we as a club just threw in the towel.

I am not too bothered to have moved Mignolet who was too unpredictable as long as we get somebody better than him, anyway we do not have anybody right now so we will get one surely. My problem is more about Mane and/or Firmino getting injured especially with the number of games Mane has played for a year.

Our wage bill is huge (almost as big as City's), and despite that we are thin both at fullback and attack. Strange!

If we are trying to run the business on low costs, then why don't we trim our midfield too?

We are clearly one player short up top. We are also at least one fullback short. And now we're also thin in the gk department.

But in midfield we have 13 players in a dozen - at least!

It seems we have a thing for midfielders and want to keep them all just in case. Now even converting Lallana into a dm type player as there is no room for him further up the pitch. There are so many midfielders that we don't have space for the next generation, such as Wilson and Kent.

But at fullback it's ok to go for Larouci and Hoever, barely 18 years old either of them.

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