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Is that this not what squad players are supposed to be? Ie when Firmino is out, Origi, who is clearly not a world beater, can come in and do a job against a team we should beat at home. Salah was excellent last night. Looked less knackered than he has recently. Think his game benefits from having TAA on the pitch. I don't think it's wise to conclude anything after this one game as we have played quite poorly recently, especially away. Beating Watford is the least we could expect, and scoring 5 makes it much sweeter. We needed to play better, which we did, now we need to continue against the Bluenoses. City had beaten them 0-2, we have to win.
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Just saw the hilights so not sure how accurate they were.
I'll ignore how bad the watford defence looked because we needed a handy one for everyone to go out and enjoy their ball for the first time in months.
Mane's second was a cracker of a finish, he's been the only forward on form for a while. Mo still worries me, i really wished he had scored, he looked like he was running into tackles again. 2 for virgil is beast.
Origi may retire off of that, he won't do it again. Off to Hull with him.
For fck sake let this be the turning of the tide. That's the problem with highlights Flames, it doesn't give you the full picture. Salah had one of his best performances last night, and was one of the standout players on the night. The Highlights seldom show the tough grinding hard graft, and can therefore be quite misleading. By the way Milner too had a great hardworking performance as did Fabinho, they didn't score but we're very instrumental in the performance/ outcome.
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Just saw the hilights so not sure how accurate they were.
I'll ignore how bad the watford defence looked because we needed a handy one for everyone to go out and enjoy their ball for the first time in months.
Mane's second was a cracker of a finish, he's been the only forward on form for a while. Mo still worries me, i really wished he had scored, he looked like he was running into tackles again. 2 for virgil is beast.
Origi may retire off of that, he won't do it again. Off to Hull with him.
For fck sake let this be the turning of the tide. That's the problem with highlights Flames, it doesn't give you the full picture. Salah had one of his best performances last night, and was one of the standout players on the night. The Highlights seldom show the tough grinding hard graft, and can therefore be quite misleading. By the way Milner too had a great hardworking performance as did Fabinho, they didn't score but we're very instrumental in the performance/ outcome. Fair enough, but a huge part of his games is goals and last night was perhaps a chance to rectify that.. even origi managed it. Doesn't matter when we win of course
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I thought Origi played well, he has got to be the forward option now above Sturridge based on the Utd display. He looked good coming off thh left, maybe not being the focus as CF suited him more, as he had more freedom to move around, he must be a distraction/concern for the defenders as he is a big powerful player, so is different to our normal front 3.
I would keep him in for Everton and have Bobby on the bench (if he is available), he has earned his place and there is no point in rushing Bobby back.
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On the left, Origi's strengths are more in play: his ability to run the channels, take on men, get in behind. He doesn't seem as comfortable playing off the shoulder or holding the ball up.
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On the left, Origi's strengths are more in play: his ability to run the channels, take on men, get in behind. He doesn't seem as comfortable playing off the shoulder or holding the ball up. But why has Klopp been playing him in the centre until the last game? That said, one game is not enough to conclude.
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On the left, Origi's strengths are more in play: his ability to run the channels, take on men, get in behind. He doesn't seem as comfortable playing off the shoulder or holding the ball up. But why has Klopp been playing him in the centre until the last game? That said, one game is not enough to conclude. Because he's a CF by trade and that's his favored position? It's not as though it would be obvious until you see it in action. He played him in a different position, and it worked a treat, similar to the way he changed Firmino's position, or Salah's role.
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On the left, Origi's strengths are more in play: his ability to run the channels, take on men, get in behind. He doesn't seem as comfortable playing off the shoulder or holding the ball up. But why has Klopp been playing him in the centre until the last game? That said, one game is not enough to conclude. Because he's a CF by trade and that's his favored position? It's not as though it would be obvious until you see it in action. He played him in a different position, and it worked a treat, similar to the way he changed Firmino's position, or Salah's role. To begin with I think it would be stupid to conclude after 1 good game, if he does it a number of times, then yes. Then, I would expect Klopp to try things n training, so would be surprised that he just took a chance in a game after a couple of seasons managing him. What has he changed with Salah, he was already playing on the right wing at Roma. Yes, Klopp sometimes plays in the middle but not regularly.
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On the left, Origi's strengths are more in play: his ability to run the channels, take on men, get in behind. He doesn't seem as comfortable playing off the shoulder or holding the ball up. But why has Klopp been playing him in the centre until the last game? That said, one game is not enough to conclude. Because he's a CF by trade and that's his favored position? It's not as though it would be obvious until you see it in action. He played him in a different position, and it worked a treat, similar to the way he changed Firmino's position, or Salah's role. To begin with I think it would be stupid to conclude after 1 good game, if he does it a number of times, then yes. Then, I would expect Klopp to try things n training, so would be surprised that he just took a chance in a game after a couple of seasons managing him. What has he changed with Salah, he was already playing on the right wing at Roma. Yes, Klopp sometimes plays in the middle but not regularly. What is your point? Klopp played him a different position this game, and he was able to use his strengths. What have I concluded? I am responding to one performance. That's it. He had a good game. Are you disagreeing with that, or are you saying Klopp is an idiot for not doing it sooner? I would find either response strange. At Roma Salah was more of an out and out winger, getting down the byline, creating for Dzeko. Here he's a wide forward and the main goal scorer, which he has never been for any other team in his career. Even when on the right, his role is much more central than he was at Roma, Chelsea, or Basel.
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My point is I am sure Klopp tried him there before at least in training. He has a good game but his problem has been inconsistency. He has to do that regularly to be useful to the squad.
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