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Why should we fear? I think that's the problem with us fans. For whatever reason, some of us are too fearful of defeat. We should focus more simply on the moment, the anticiptation of something positive and then whatever will be will be. This fear psychosis is what perhaps causes the atmosphere at Anfield to have a detrimental effect on the team andhence is counter productive.
In the Leicester game, the support at the ground failed the team. Evening home game and it wasn't as if were being thrashed or something. In the 2nd half the fans should have been much more vocal... and even though we drew the team should have been given a rousing send of so they can feel the support.
Regarding tomorrow, I suggets we just play our game the way we have been all season. Too late to tinker now. It playesr make movements off the ball better than they seems to do the other evening and if we pass quicly then we should be good enough to outscore the opposition. It’s bevause we didn’t buy anyone. Because we weren’t great against Leicester. Blah, blah, blah. I’d hate to go into a fight with some of these on here! And I agree completely with your post. I would say though, that whilst we shouldn't be so fearful of a less than perfect performance or result, there's nothing wrong in debatng reasons after the event. I do think that we have made mistakes by playing such a poor team in the cup, letting Clyne go and not signing anyone. Having suddenly found ourselves in such a strong position, we should have invested, even gambled, to take advantage. Well you can bet your life that every single little thing we did wrong will be debated whether we’ve won 10-0 or not. Managers will make mistakes. They’re only human but it’s what you learn from them that counts and Klopp has learned from most of his. And I’d rather we not gamble being where we are. Why would we? Everyone thinks we’d instantly win the title had we bought someone but as I’ve pointed out before, that player could get injured, could unsettle the balance, could turn out shitte or we could just lose it anyway because City are so strong. Plus you have to ask who was out there to the right standard? Only Chelsea (and Arsenal?) who can challenge did anything in January. Says all I need to know. But for me, if you can’t enjoy this, no matter how much you want it, why the hell are you watching football? Enjoy what exactly, seeing us top of the table in Jan? I would rather enjoy end of the season, for now, want to enjoy us winning every game I watch. I can accept that we lost away to City, but cannot enjoy a draw at home against Leicester by playing that bad. But we are all different, did you enjoy the Leicester game?
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I've been feeling and expressing optimism early on in this season and even before the season started. However I've been also expressing worry and concern in the recent past, due to what I percive, rightly or wrongly, to be a gradual drop in performance. Who can deny our defence is under massive strain? Given our strong financial position who could reasonably argue against trying to strengthen it in January? Is our attack looking anything near what most of us would regard as its potential? One could argue that only one of our recent signings is performing to a level we'd expect. Who could argue that our so called depth of quality in the squad is up to the challenge? Unless our remaining first team lads can gather themselves for an almighty push, I feel we're going to struggle with mounting injuries and fatigue. No one will be happier than myself if we can get this challenge over the line, and I think today's game's outcome will have a considerable bearing on that. Come on ye red's lets rise to the challenge, YNWA!
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Well said. I would be less nervous if we had a better squad, to cover for injured players, but also the players should have to compete more for their place.
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Enjoy what exactly, seeing us top of the table in Jan? I would rather enjoy end of the season, for now, want to enjoy us winning every game I watch. I can accept that we lost away to City, but cannot enjoy a draw at home against Leicester by playing that bad. But we are all different, did you enjoy the Leicester game?
I’m m talking about enjoying the ride vish. There will always be ups and downs and that’s part of the game. But we’re challenging again which makes it even more enjoyable for me win, lose or draw. I want to win the league as much as the next man but City are a proper strong side so will be hard. But to give up because we drew with Leicester as some seem to is a little bit much isn’t it?
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I've been feeling and expressing optimism early on in this season and even before the season started. However I've been also expressing worry and concern in the recent past, due to what I percive, rightly or wrongly, to be a gradual drop in performance. Who can deny our defence is under massive strain? Given our strong financial position who could reasonably argue against trying to strengthen it in January? Is our attack looking anything near what most of us would regard as its potential? One could argue that only one of our recent signings is performing to a level we'd expect. Who could argue that our so called depth of quality in the squad is up to the challenge? Unless our remaining first team lads can gather themselves for an almighty push, I feel we're going to struggle with mounting injuries and fatigue. No one will be happier than myself if we can get this challenge over the line, and I think today's game's outcome will have a considerable bearing on that. Come on ye red's lets rise to the challenge, YNWA! Again, how do you know we didn’t try to strengthen?
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I've been feeling and expressing optimism early on in this season and even before the season started. However I've been also expressing worry and concern in the recent past, due to what I percive, rightly or wrongly, to be a gradual drop in performance. Who can deny our defence is under massive strain? Given our strong financial position who could reasonably argue against trying to strengthen it in January? Is our attack looking anything near what most of us would regard as its potential? One could argue that only one of our recent signings is performing to a level we'd expect. Who could argue that our so called depth of quality in the squad is up to the challenge? Unless our remaining first team lads can gather themselves for an almighty push, I feel we're going to struggle with mounting injuries and fatigue. No one will be happier than myself if we can get this challenge over the line, and I think today's game's outcome will have a considerable bearing on that. Come on ye red's lets rise to the challenge, YNWA! Again, how do you know we didn’t try to strengthen? Because Klopp said on more than one occasion that he wasn't looking to strengthen. There were players available that other sides snapped up, as league leaders and in the CL we'd have had a strong shout to attract them. It's pretty obvious to those who wish to see that we didn't try to strengthen. You can keep on with the smart arsed questions, knowing as you do that it's impossible to prove it one way or the other, but how much does that add to our discussion?
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Not trying to be smart arsed although where you’re concerned it’s quite easy to be. Just trying to understand how you know?
Why would he say we were looking? Any player we wanted would then cost more. He’s always said things like that and rightly so.
So who was out there that moved that would have improved us? I can’t remember many good deals going through but maybe I missed them?
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Enjoy what exactly, seeing us top of the table in Jan? I would rather enjoy end of the season, for now, want to enjoy us winning every game I watch. I can accept that we lost away to City, but cannot enjoy a draw at home against Leicester by playing that bad. But we are all different, did you enjoy the Leicester game?
I’m m talking about enjoying the ride vish. There will always be ups and downs and that’s part of the game. But we’re challenging again which makes it even more enjoyable for me win, lose or draw. I want to win the league as much as the next man but City are a proper strong side so will be hard. But to give up because we drew with Leicester as some seem to is a little bit much isn’t it? Haven't given up but saying we cannot repeat that kind of performance, ie, Leicester at home. Manure got their 3 pts against them away, which makes me even more disappointed
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Enjoy what exactly, seeing us top of the table in Jan? I would rather enjoy end of the season, for now, want to enjoy us winning every game I watch. I can accept that we lost away to City, but cannot enjoy a draw at home against Leicester by playing that bad. But we are all different, did you enjoy the Leicester game?
I’m m talking about enjoying the ride vish. There will always be ups and downs and that’s part of the game. But we’re challenging again which makes it even more enjoyable for me win, lose or draw. I want to win the league as much as the next man but City are a proper strong side so will be hard. But to give up because we drew with Leicester as some seem to is a little bit much isn’t it? Haven't given up but saying we cannot repeat that kind of performance, ie, Leicester at home. Manure got their 3 pts against them away, which makes me even more disappointed There’s a long way to go and lots can happen. We’ve had a good run this year along with some bad performances but we’ve been getting the results and that’s the big thing. We’d have lost that Leicester game last season. But City are good enough that none of that counts and that’s the worry.
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Enjoy what exactly, seeing us top of the table in Jan? I would rather enjoy end of the season, for now, want to enjoy us winning every game I watch. I can accept that we lost away to City, but cannot enjoy a draw at home against Leicester by playing that bad. But we are all different, did you enjoy the Leicester game?
I’m m talking about enjoying the ride vish. There will always be ups and downs and that’s part of the game. But we’re challenging again which makes it even more enjoyable for me win, lose or draw. I want to win the league as much as the next man but City are a proper strong side so will be hard. But to give up because we drew with Leicester as some seem to is a little bit much isn’t it? Haven't given up but saying we cannot repeat that kind of performance, ie, Leicester at home. Manure got their 3 pts against them away, which makes me even more disappointed Yes it's not that we're giving up, far from it. However it's not like the Leicester performance came out of the blue either, there were signs that our lines of attack were being read and anticipated before that game. Then as we all knew our makeshift defence was likely to be exploited and it was, that's the reason for concern. Hopefully we can knuckle down and get a decent win tonight and thereby restore some momentum and confidence. Klopp needs to get his lineup, tactics and focus spot on, as WH at home are no walkover.
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