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Nice cherry picking of what I wrote there to suit your argument. I also suggested that we could get much better trade deals with countries out side the EU but feel free to ignore that.

I think we established that none of us know the future right? So I don’t know if this whole thing will be positive anymore than you know it’ll be negative. Is that fair to say? We don’t have to agree on this and I’m sure we won’t and neither of us are right or wrong as it’s all just guessing.

I just choose to think that we can make a go of this and come out no worse off. Nothing wrong with that and is based on the same as all the negative reports, pure guess work.

I only quoted what you posted wilki. Your follow up is no less convincing. It is along the lines of we may get better trade deals outside the EU we may not

I wasn't predicting the future I was talking about people who had lost their jobs already because of Brexit. Also the talks with businesses and the Dutch Government are currently taking place..

I agree entirely that we don't have to agree. However I can't see how we can make a go of "this" as parliament can't even agree what "this is two and a half years after we voted for "this".

It's mad, but unfortunately ordinary people are going to be the ones who pay for it. I guarantee you that the people who caused this upheaval will be re-elected at the next election and that is the saddest part of this whole fiasco. .

The fact the government is fighting itself and parliment could not agree on the time of day is nothing to do with brexit and everything to do with our lazy politicians who I liken to the modern day lords and landed gentry of the 18th century. All they care about id enriching themselves look at the mansion Nick Clegg has bought with his 7 million a year facebook salary using his spin skills earned in his political career. These jokers told us to remain in the EU and are still trying to overturn the result. On another planet are the ordinary people. Before the 2016 referendum politics was at all time low people simply did not believe george osbournes project fear there would be an immediate depression on voting to leave the EU the reverse happened. Osbourne was chancellor he knew it was a lie and so did ordinary british people. As for those who search for job losses or any bad news and attribute it to brexit that is for the junior school playground. All major economies have good and bad news all the time.

Of course as we all know Tory MP's are struggling to make ends meet.

As for those who ignore the fact that 900 people lost their jobs this week as a direct result of Brexit that is delusional.

Of course as we all know Tory MP's are struggling to make ends meet.

As for those who ignore the fact that 900 people lost their jobs this week as a direct result of Brexit that is delusional.

I explained my position last night so not going to re-type it all. As you have agreed, no one knows the future so you can’t say for sure that it’ll be a massive fukk up anymore than I know that it’ll all be rosy.

And the 900 jobs again? One EU body has to move from the UK because of Brexit so that means all our industry will move. Get a grip.

The difference is you can’t seem to accept a democratic vote and just lap up all the negative reports that are in the press and take them as gospel. That’s fine if that’s what gets you through but I prefer to think that we can make some good things from this. I don’t have to convince you as that can only come from yourself.

And those who think that just one set of job losses down to brexit means there will be lots and lots more is also delusional.