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fined and found guilty ..ur election was a scam

And if it yields the same result? Would you wind your neck in and accept it?

Carry on being silly EMP.

No one is making their own judgement in here. Taking everything negative that is fed to us by the pro remain media as gospel despite saying they don’t know the future. It’s a cr@p way to be. No one knows what will happen and I’d rather think that we can get something positive from this and I was a remain voter let’s not forget.

Are you taking underemployment into account with your 'record employment' boast Stan?

So what are the positives wilki?

You have a government that is fighting with itself, an opposition looking for a General Election and a population split straight down the middle.

Scotland wants another referendum and the government is no nearer to providing an alternative to the N. Ireland backstop.

The 900 jobs lost yesterday as a direct result of Brexit isn't scaremongering. It's fact.

SSO in his post shows that people in smaller businesses are already losing their jobs as Brexit approaches.

So wilki convince that it's all going to work out and that the economy will flourish after Brexit. Trust me wilki, I want to be convinced. We could all be doing with some good news.

I explained my position last night so not going to re-type it all. As you have agreed, no one knows the future so you can’t say for sure that it’ll be a massive fukk up anymore than I know that it’ll all be rosy.

And the 900 jobs again? One EU body has to move from the UK because of Brexit so that means all our industry will move. Get a grip.

The difference is you can’t seem to accept a democratic vote and just lap up all the negative reports that are in the press and take them as gospel. That’s fine if that’s what gets you through but I prefer to think that we can make some good things from this. I don’t have to convince you as that can only come from yourself.

900 jobs lost. That's no big deal when it's not your job. I suppose the job losses SSO highlighted are no big deal either.

No one said all your industry will move. But if you think you are not going to suffer more job losses in the event of a No Deal Brexit then you are sadly delusional.

The people who can't accept a democratic vote are your politicians, hence the stalemate in parliament. We in N. Ireland voted to remain and yet the DUP are pushing for a hard Brexit. Now that's hardly democratic. Your entire parliament is being held to ransom by 10 DUP politicians, is that democracy?

As for accepting negative reports in the press, those job losses were very real. Also, when the Dutch Government announced that more than 250 firms based in the U.K. have made enquiries about relocating are we to assume that they are lying? The warning from Airbus: is that just bluff. The job losses announced by the car manufacturers in the last fortnight, are they imaginary?

I notice you gave me no reason to be hopeful other than "I prefer to think that we can make some good things from this". Is that it. Is that your argument?

I said a few reasons last night which you have no doubt ignored. I’m not going over and over it because it’s piintless. It’s not based on anything more than the negatives being reported. You will always rubbish it as it doesn’t suit your anti brexit stance.

And job losses are bad but they happen and have happened before brexit. I also said last night how the biggest employer in my home town has shut down with hundreds out of jobs in a rural Suffolk town. This was not down to brexit just relocation of manufacturing by the company. It happens all the time and will regardless of what happens. And come back and see me when those 250 companies relocate to Holland.

Here's what you gave us last night wilki.

"I don't know what positives there will be".

So job losses that happen as a result of Brexit will be acceptable because job losses happen anyway. Is that really the best you have?

By all means make little of what is unfolding before your eyes but it won't stop it happening.