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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The EU have the upper hand mainly because some British politicians have been actively working against Britain and helping the EU or using brexit to attain power or party politics. And they make no secret of it. I would not be surprised if brexit never happens and or we are made to vote again until we give the correct answer. I cannot stress how serious this is. Britain is a safe prosperous country. What has made it so is its democracy and the people having faith in the political system and the rule of law. If that's questioned then who knows where it will lead? You are correct shaggy to say people are angry and I don't think it's started yet. I keep hoping common sense will prevail and this is just brinkmanship and in a few weeks a deal will be agreed. But I am not confident at all


It is a ridiculously dangerous game for politicians to be playing

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The EU have the upper hand mainly because some British politicians have been actively working against Britain and helping the EU or using brexit to attain power or party politics. And they make no secret of it. I would not be surprised if brexit never happens and or we are made to vote again until we give the correct answer. I cannot stress how serious this is. Britain is a safe prosperous country. What has made it so is its democracy and the people having faith in the political system and the rule of law. If that's questioned then who knows where it will lead? You are correct shaggy to say people are angry and I don't think it's started yet. I keep hoping common sense will prevail and this is just brinkmanship and in a few weeks a deal will be agreed. But I am not confident at all


It is a ridiculously dangerous game for politicians to be playing


It's probably nonsense but I did read one thing activists could do is completely block the nations motorways by co-ordinated slow driving across the countries motorways. They could bring the country to a halt. The yellow vest campaign in France stopped macron I know Britain is more reserved than France but if stop brexit the politicians had better know what they are doing


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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The EU have the upper hand mainly because some British politicians have been actively working against Britain and helping the EU or using brexit to attain power or party politics. And they make no secret of it. I would not be surprised if brexit never happens and or we are made to vote again until we give the correct answer. I cannot stress how serious this is. Britain is a safe prosperous country. What has made it so is its democracy and the people having faith in the political system and the rule of law. If that's questioned then who knows where it will lead? You are correct shaggy to say people are angry and I don't think it's started yet. I keep hoping common sense will prevail and this is just brinkmanship and in a few weeks a deal will be agreed. But I am not confident at all


It is a ridiculously dangerous game for politicians to be playing


It's probably nonsense but I did read one thing activists could do is completely block the nations motorways by co-ordinated slow driving across the countries motorways. They could bring the country to a halt. The yellow vest campaign in France stopped macron I know Britain is more reserved than France but if stop brexit the politicians had better know what they are doing


You don't want to be starting that carry on Stan. It gives the nutters their excuses and their justification.

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It won't be me starting anything shaggy not with my bad back. The word on the street is Yvette coopers amendment could get passed that would mean extending article 50 for nine months and it looks like no deal could be canned. In which case brexit is to all intents dead. We will know by next Tuesday. I go on a few brexit forums and people are not going to be very happy. I live in a big leave area (as is most of the north of England) and both leavers and remainers I know simply want the government to get on with what we voted for. Faith in politicians is getting to dangerously low levels no one believes they have the countries interests at heart. You only have to watch them on tv to see that. More than one MP has actually been on TV celebrating the fact x number of older people have died since 2016. When you get to that stage you are reaching the limits of public tolerance


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The EU have the upper hand mainly because some British politicians have been actively working against Britain and helping the EU or using brexit to attain power or party politics. And they make no secret of it. I would not be surprised if brexit never happens and or we are made to vote again until we give the correct answer. I cannot stress how serious this is. Britain is a safe prosperous country. What has made it so is its democracy and the people having faith in the political system and the rule of law. If that's questioned then who knows where it will lead? You are correct shaggy to say people are angry and I don't think it's started yet. I keep hoping common sense will prevail and this is just brinkmanship and in a few weeks a deal will be agreed. But I am not confident at all


It is a ridiculously dangerous game for politicians to be playing


It's probably nonsense but I did read one thing activists could do is completely block the nations motorways by co-ordinated slow driving across the countries motorways. They could bring the country to a halt. The yellow vest campaign in France stopped macron I know Britain is more reserved than France but if stop brexit the politicians had better know what they are doing


Difference is Brexit had divided uk people right in the middle, while in France there was a big majority not happy with increased fuel taxes and decreasing spending power. But if you think blocking everything because of brexit will make lives better, then yes, I would encourage you and your buddies to try.

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What there seems to be though vish is a majority for these w@nkers to get on and follow the democratic vote. I voted to remain and I and others I know who did so just want it done. None of us want all these politicians trying to stop it and extend it. It just creates even more uncertainty. Our politicians are playing dangerous games. The people voted to leave and that’s what we should do.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
What there seems to be though vish is a majority for these w@nkers to get on and follow the democratic vote. I voted to remain and I and others I know who did so just want it done. None of us want all these politicians trying to stop it and extend it. It just creates even more uncertainty. Our politicians are playing dangerous games. The people voted to leave and that’s what we should do.


Is anyone concerned by the amount of job losses in recent weeks?

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No. I’ve atill got one.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
No. I’ve atill got one.


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You will be in the minority at this rate.

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This is not between leavers and remainers its between the british public and the political class. We are united. I live in a leave area but as it happens all my friends and family are remain all of them like me want the government to deliver as per the vote. Dont forget faith in british politics was at an all time low before 2016 what position its in now I dread to think.


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