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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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We all have blue blood. Didn’t you do biology at school?

And I’m not sure how many times I have to say that I have no allegiance to any one party. I’ll vote for who I think will be best to run my country. That just happened to be the conservatives over Gordon Brown, Ed Milliband (his brother was a much better option) and now Steptoe. I know in your leftie world that somehow makes me like Alf Garnet but I suppose that’s how the tollerant left works for anyone not on their side.

Let me ask you this, do you have confidence that Diane Abbott can do a good job at looking after the security of this country?


Tell us this wilki. Who is going to get your vote next time around. Surely you are not going to give it to the tories. We know you won't be giving it to labour so who will it be?


You would not believe how many people are asking that question


Maybe we could do an America and get Alan Sugar in?

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
We all have blue blood. Didn’t you do biology at school?

And I’m not sure how many times I have to say that I have no allegiance to any one party. I’ll vote for who I think will be best to run my country. That just happened to be the conservatives over Gordon Brown, Ed Milliband (his brother was a much better option) and now Steptoe. I know in your leftie world that somehow makes me like Alf Garnet but I suppose that’s how the tollerant left works for anyone not on their side.

Let me ask you this, do you have confidence that Diane Abbott can do a good job at looking after the security of this country?


Tell us this wilki. Who is going to get your vote next time around. Surely you are not going to give it to the tories. We know you won't be giving it to labour so who will it be?


You would not believe how many people are asking that question


Maybe we could do an America and get Alan Sugar in?


Alan Partridge would do a better job

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Than Alan Sugar? Maybe?

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Originally Posted By LiverbirdLain
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labour were at its lowest ebb before ordinary people got up and changed the party by seeking out someone who has the ordinary people to the fore. Corbyn was put on a wave he didn't do it himself and these same people will come out in massive numbers again, and going against an insane party like the tories ,I would say labour have a great chance.


Corbyn was put there by far left nutters and is kept there by them. Don’t fool yourself that he’s there for anything but to pay them back. His stance now proves he’s more about himself than the good of my country, just like the rest of them.



Plus i dont think yvette cooper can stand him and Dave miliband (Blair two) is just waiting in the wings for jeremy to fail.


No one likes him because he's a weak minded fool. He's a disaster waiting to happen being ran by the far left. I'd say we wouldn't be stupid enough to vote for him as a nation but then remember Brexit!

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This government is the biggest shambles in living memory yet in the polls Corbyn is six points behind. I know he did better than expected last election but I think many voted in protest not expecting him to get power. Next election they will know a vote for him really could see a far left Marxist running the British economy. I think voters will step back from that


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Did anyone watch question time last night and see Diane abbot speaking on brexit and labours refusal to speak to may ? It was enough to make a grown man cry. Vish once said on here British politicians are intelligent and know more than the public. I wish he could have seen that performance if labour are elected Diane abbot could be the British Home Secretary in charge of the police prisons and law and order in the whole nation. Brexit is indeed in chaos but it's in chaos entirely because of British politicians and parliment which is a shambles and whatever happens on brexit our political system badly needs reform


I don't remember saying British politicians, and they cannot be all intelligent and I hardly know them. What I did say is that the former PMs should know more than the general public because they have more information thanks to their position. Do you understand the difference?


No I don't and if you are referring to john major I definitely don't


So having more information makes no difference according to you?

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
This government is the biggest shambles in living memory yet in the polls Corbyn is six points behind. I know he did better than expected last election but I think many voted in protest not expecting him to get power. Next election they will know a vote for him really could see a far left Marxist running the British economy. I think voters will step back from that


They are all unelectable. It is about personality as much as anything else these days. Look at other countries. They elect strong personalities who will be able to sway Jean-Paul Foreigner as it were so they can get the best deal for their people.

Blair could come back tomorrow and be more popular than Corbyn. Labour chose the wrong Miliband and has struggled since. I think you are right about voting for Corbyn in protest. This is because May herself is unelectable as was Cameron before her. Neither won an election outright. I doubt if the next election will get a clear cut winner either. Something has to give. The people will always suffer.

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Cameron had a clear majority the second time.

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i think the people who went out and raised corbyn up are the only inspiration in all this ugly mess...u complain about politicians , and yes they are all snakes in the grass, the people went out and found a leader whose principles have never changed and who understand the massive disadvantages politicians put normal people under. its a massive task to oust bought and paid for scumbag politicians but root and branch people and young people are going to be significant in all future elections.

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Don’t delude yourself that he’s any better. He’s proved that over the last few weeks. Seems his mantra of talking to those you disagree with most is only applicable to terrorists.

He and his cronies will destroy this country and fortunately those like yourself who are to blind to see it are few and far between.

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