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Let's face it ,if the Tories were a dog they would have been euthanized by now.

Where did I blame Labour? Them wanting to frustrate the process for their own political gain is happening and that's what I'm taking issue with.

The tory infighting is doing a fine job of that all on their own though Wilks,

No ruling political party wanted Brexit yet have to carry out the will of the people. It was a shock that leave won so I'm not surprised there was no exit plan even if there should have been one. Those who promised it had no power to carry out what they were selling so those who voted for it were pretty damn stupid in my eyes.

But May, for me, is doing her best in trying to do something that has never been done before. There is no handbook for doing this and while trying to please the UK she also has to try and please 27 other countries. That will never happen whether it's the Torries or Labour negotiating. Hearing some of the 70's throwbacks comments earlier about what they would do then we may as well not leave. Now that will obviously please you as a remainer but if the country voted to leave then we have to be out. That's how democracy works but obviously not those who are trying to rise to power at any cost.

All this is doing is damaging the country. We may not be better off out but we will be better off out than in some sort of limbo as we are now. We voted to leave the EU and triggering article 50 had to be done regardless of when. Had she not done it straight away we'd have been in another kind of limbo which would have created more uncertainty in the markets and damaged us more.

So you can say the Torries have messed up all you want and no doubt you will for your own reasons but like it or not the best thing to do is let them get the best deal possible for the nation. They did win the general election after all on a mandate to get us out of the EU. Anyone trying to stall this for their own political gain is nothing short of a cvnt and will damage the country in the long run (and I count Labour, Torries and Lib Dems in that cvnt category).

It seems democracy only works for some when it suits their own needs now days.

So? Where did I blame Labour for anything but frustrating this process for their own gain, which they're doing? I'd also suggest, as you have, that if this was the other way around you'd be doing the same as me.

May is doing her job,whether she's good enough at performing her job remains to be seen,i mean even the A-Team had a back up plan.

I wouldn't dare show my face never mind try to defend it.

She's trying to do something that has never been done before and she needs to try and please everyone which will never happen. NO ONE would do a better job.

The role of any opposition is to get in power, isn't it, especially if the ruling party cannot agree on a way forward? Instead of negotiating with the EU they have been negotiating with themselves for 2 years or so and have still not agreed, complete joke. Corbyn is just doing his job.

When the future of the country, my country, is at stake then politics should take a back seat for the good of the country. Corbyn and his 70's throw backs would do no better. No one would as it's the impossible job.

But if everyone pulled together and got on with it instead of trying to use the situation for their own gain, things may go a little more smoothly and the outcome might be a little more palatable.

This just shows that ALL politicians are complete cvnts who are in it for themselves no matter how they portray themselves.