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I get that but if they invest and get economies of scale right then prices will come down. We need more manufacturing in this country regardless of Brexit but whether we'll get it or not is another thing.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
I get that but if they invest and get economies of scale right then prices will come down. We need more manufacturing in this country regardless of Brexit but whether we'll get it or not is another thing.


Manufacturing has been moving to lower cost countries since globalisation and will continue unless there is protectionism that can only work for huge economies like the US and EU. Services is different to some extent as very often you need to be where it is being delivered. JLR is building a plant in Slovakia because of that.

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There will never be a brexit deal that suits everyone just as in any election. Unless you are used to political solutions in Ulster where 100% agree? From experience you take every headline and take it as unchangable fact. Whereas most people are capable of taking a wider judgement. Take your comment the "the EU showed Theresa May her arse" that is uneducated childish tripe. Most people with an ounce of intelligence can see both sides are posturing before the final deal. I am convinced there will be a deal in my judgement but I may be wrong and if there is a deal not everyone will be happy. That's impossible


You are capable of taking a very wide judgement.

Chequers one day, no deal the next. I suppose it depends on the Daily Express headline.

Yet again you fail to provide any evidence of a Brexit plan that shows that we will all be better off after we leave the EU.

Do please convince us how we will all be better off and how the evil EU is oppressing Britain.



To convince you of anything you would have to be capable of reasoning. You have shown no evidence of that to date. You have not even read the chequers proposal never mind understood it. What hope is there ?


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Well it looks like labour want to frustrate the process just for their own political gain now. Will these cvnts ever just get on with this and stop fukking with our future?

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
There will never be a brexit deal that suits everyone just as in any election. Unless you are used to political solutions in Ulster where 100% agree? From experience you take every headline and take it as unchangable fact. Whereas most people are capable of taking a wider judgement. Take your comment the "the EU showed Theresa May her arse" that is uneducated childish tripe. Most people with an ounce of intelligence can see both sides are posturing before the final deal. I am convinced there will be a deal in my judgement but I may be wrong and if there is a deal not everyone will be happy. That's impossible


You are capable of taking a very wide judgement.

Chequers one day, no deal the next. I suppose it depends on the Daily Express headline.

Yet again you fail to provide any evidence of a Brexit plan that shows that we will all be better off after we leave the EU.

Do please convince us how we will all be better off and how the evil EU is oppressing Britain.



To convince you of anything you would have to be capable of reasoning. You have shown no evidence of that to date. You have not even read the chequers proposal never mind understood it. What hope is there ?


What hope is there? None for the Chequers Agreement. If you read the entire Chequers agreement as you claimed then obviously you would have realised that it would never be acceptable to the EU as it was just more cherry picking. Maybe you missed that section?

Yet again I will ask for the Brexiteer plan that will leave us all better off after we leave the EU.

Any chance of an answer or will there just be more name calling?

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well it looks like labour want to frustrate the process just for their own political gain now. Will these cvnts ever just get on with this and stop fukking with our future?


It isn't labours problem. It's a problem entirely of the tories own making.

The tories have made a complete mess of the negotiations not labour.

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well it looks like labour want to frustrate the process just for their own political gain now. Will these cvnts ever just get on with this and stop fukking with our future?


It isn't labours problem. It's a problem entirely of the tories own making.

The tories have made a complete mess of the negotiations not labour.





Have they made a mess of the negotiations? This has never been done before so what are you bench marking this against?

This is just Corbyn and his cronies trying to muscle into power. Watch that 70's throw back McDonald earlier calling for a general election nearly made me physically sick. They're like the kid at school who was shitte at footie who would start a game and be captain so he didn't get picked last.

All they're doing is trying to frustrate the process for their own political game which with 6 months left is the worst possible thing they can do. And when asked the question of whether anyone within the EU would work with them IF they were to be in power and he gave the standard politician question dodging answer. I can only imagine that the EU, like any normal democracy supporting person in this country, just wants the negotiations finished with so we can all get on with our lives.

Labour doing this won't make that happen and all it will do is create further uncertainty that'll hit the home markets and ultimately US in the pocket.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well it looks like labour want to frustrate the process just for their own political gain now. Will these cvnts ever just get on with this and stop fukking with our future?


It isn't labours problem. It's a problem entirely of the tories own making.

The tories have made a complete mess of the negotiations not labour.





Have they made a mess of the negotiations? This has never been done before so what are you bench marking this against?

This is just Corbyn and his cronies trying to muscle into power. Watch that 70's throw back McDonald earlier calling for a general election nearly made me physically sick. They're like the kid at school who was shitte at footie who would start a game and be captain so he didn't get picked last.

All they're doing is trying to frustrate the process for their own political game which with 6 months left is the worst possible thing they can do. And when asked the question of whether anyone within the EU would work with them IF they were to be in power and he gave the standard politician question dodging answer. I can only imagine that the EU, like any normal democracy supporting person in this country, just wants the negotiations finished with so we can all get on with our lives.

Labour doing this won't make that happen and all it will do is create further uncertainty that'll hit the home markets and ultimately US in the pocket.


Yes they have made a mess of the negotiations.

Firstly May called an election when she already had a majority and came out of it with a minority government dependant on the DUP for support.

She then triggered Article 50 without having any idea of what exactly Britain's negotiating position was going to be.

She then set a series of red lines that gave her no wriggle room as negotiations progressed.

Her government wasted 2 years fighting amongst themselves, failing utterly to offer any semblance of a viable Brexit plan.

The Chequers Plan, which cost her two of her most senior ministers was rejected by the EU as it again included cherry picking. Her insistence that it is Chequers or no deal is deeply worrying as she seems to have run out of ideas.

None of this has anything to do with labour and all they are doing is sitting tight as the tories destroy themselves.

I challenge anyone to show us how we will be better off out of the EU at the end of all this.

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Wilki blaming Labour is just typical.


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Any opposition party watching this mess unfold would be nuts not pushing for a general election ,would you be saying the same thing if Labour was putting the country through this,I think not.


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