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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
As I said not everything is right or perfect. But overall the country is doing very well. I agree about wage compression and zero hour contracts which is directly due to gross over supply of manual labour. I am glad shaggy you are concerned now you will see why me and millions like me voted for brexit and control over our laws. But we are not in the huge recession some predicted and many remainers hoped for the country has record employment one of the highest inward investments in the developed world and London is actually the highest in the world. Also you keep saying chequers is brexit in name only can you provide detail with reference to the appropriate section in the chequers agreement so I can examine your assertions because it was not my reading. I know there is not a hope in hell of you answering that so please feel free to change the subject as per normal


I think you should be concerned at your ignorance of what is going on around you but as long as Stan's OK that's all that matters.

Nice of you to blame wage compression on EU citizens and not greedy employers. Tell me who is driving the wage compression in the public service?

You are in denial Stan.

You do realise that Johnson and Davis resigned from the government because of the contents of the Chequers Agreement. Of course you do but if you recognise that you have to accept that the Brexit you sought is never going to happen. But as this stage any Brexit will do to save face.

By all means keep deluding yourself if that gets you through the day. Just don't expect the rest of us to buy into your fantasy world.

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I read the chequers agreement there are parts of it I am concerned about yes but overall I can live with it. You keep saying it's brexit in name only I asked you to explain you have not done so. A few insults then telling me Johnson and Davies resigned. We all know you have no knowledge of even the most basic detail hence the slogans and links. I am no expert either but at least I try to be informed you don't even try


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I read the chequers agreement there are parts of it I am concerned about yes but overall I can live with it. You keep saying it's brexit in name only I asked you to explain you have not done so. A few insults then telling me Johnson and Davies resigned. We all know you have no knowledge of even the most basic detail hence the slogans and links. I am no expert either but at least I try to be informed you don't even try


You do know who Johnson and Davies are don't you?

Here's what one of them thinks of the Chequers Agreement

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics...925696.html?amp

But as always you probably know better than everyone.

Oh and here's Barnier's response to said Chequers Agreement.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/michel-ba...for-eu-11488846

Still feeling fabulous Stan?

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Shaggy I am neither Boris Johnson or David Davies my brain is not a sub set of whatever they say or think. I can actually think for myself why not give it a try sometime ?


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Shaggy I am neither Boris Johnson or David Davies my brain is not a sub set of whatever they say or think. I can actually think for myself why not give it a try sometime ?


Haha, if you move your Brexit goalposts much further Stan you are going to be off the pitch.

Brexit means a sort of Brexit, doesn't sound as well.

It is interesting to see that you are starting to realise that the Brexit they sold you isn't deliverable.

But you will have your blue passport.

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Well shaggy at least I can formulate an opinion based on my own personal reasoning I may be completely wrong but I at least am capable of that.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Well shaggy at least I can formulate an opinion based on my own personal reasoning I may be completely wrong but I at least am capable of that.


An opinion formulated on the basis of a false promise on the side of a bus and undeliverable promises from Boris and Farage. You are very astute Stan.

But you will get your blue passport.

I see the civil war within the Tory party has erupted again today.

Strong and stable indeed.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Well shaggy at least I can formulate an opinion based on my own personal reasoning I may be completely wrong but I at least am capable of that.


An opinion formulated on the basis of a false promise on the side of a bus and undeliverable promises from Boris and Farage. You are very astute Stan.

But you will get your blue passport.

I see the civil war within the Tory party has erupted again today.

Strong and stable indeed.



Just a few insults nothing of substance. Hey ho ! yes the tories are at war but so are labour our politics is a joke I make no secret of that. But thats nothing to do with brexit. If we look to Ulster though things go to another level of conflict how long is it since you had a government ? we are not as barmy as you yet but we might get there.


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Well shaggy at least I can formulate an opinion based on my own personal reasoning I may be completely wrong but I at least am capable of that.


An opinion formulated on the basis of a false promise on the side of a bus and undeliverable promises from Boris and Farage. You are very astute Stan.

But you will get your blue passport.

I see the civil war within the Tory party has erupted again today.

Strong and stable indeed.



Just a few insults nothing of substance. Hey ho ! yes the tories are at war but so are labour our politics is a joke I make no secret of that. But thats nothing to do with brexit. If we look to Ulster though things go to another level of conflict how long is it since you had a government ? we are not as barmy as you yet but we might get there.


Stan if you can't distinguish between reality and fantasy I am not to blame.
You are now actively supporting a Brexit plan that has been trashed by every major brexiteer and yet still you maintain that it is good enough for you. Oh dear

You now accept that your politics is a joke yet you said in another post that things in Britain have never been better in your lifetime. Oh dear.

As for N. Ireland, the British and Irish Governments are meant to be honest brokers. This was agreed in the Good Friday Agreement. How exactly can the British government claim to be honest brokers in any talks here when the DUP have them by the balls. Oh dear

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You keep saying "oh dear" that's your safety prop that you are enable to express an opinion of your own. I agree with some brexiteers about the chequers agreement as I have said many times I don't like it myself. I actually think chequers might be rejected by parliament. However in my opinion (it is possible shaggy to have opinions of your own without copying what famous people think) chequers given the politics in Britain is probably the best option. It is quite possible for the country to be doing well with lousy politics shaggy politicians don't drive the country they don't invest or create industries. What you really need to do is get off these forums and do some educating yourself go to the library take time out to do some reading. It will be to your benefit you clearly are passionate but Unfortunetly can't articulate your own opinions. I have lost count of the links and person x or y said this or that. Think for yourself

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