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The BBC politics show was interesting today Ian Duncan smith was on and an Irish chap who has wrote a book on brexit. Both seemed to know their facts. Duncan smith said that a series of workshops were being run between the British and Irish to provide a solution to the border issue I think the Irish PM was called Kenny. Anyway in 2017 varadkar was voted in and according to DS he canned the workshops and influenced the EU to put this hard line position we have now. The Irish guy said in event of hard border it will be the ROI who will police it. The Irish have a hard line europhile leader. It seems to me there is a broad body of politicians both inside and outside Britain who are doing everything they can to frustrate brexit. But what they might end up doing is hurting the public in Britain and Ireland something I don't think will be forgiven


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The BBC politics show was interesting today Ian Duncan smith was on and an Irish chap who has wrote a book on brexit. Both seemed to know their facts. Duncan smith said that a series of workshops were being run between the British and Irish to provide a solution to the border issue I think the Irish PM was called Kenny. Anyway in 2017 varadkar was voted in and according to DS he canned the workshops and influenced the EU to put this hard line position we have now. The Irish guy said in event of hard border it will be the ROI who will police it. The Irish have a hard line europhile leader. It seems to me there is a broad body of politicians both inside and outside Britain who are doing everything they can to frustrate brexit. But what they might end up doing is hurting the public in Britain and Ireland something I don't think will be forgiven


Wasn't the Brits who voted to leave? If the public get hurt, then it would only be a consequence of their vote, why do Brexiters keep on blaming others for their action?

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The BBC politics show was interesting today Ian Duncan smith was on and an Irish chap who has wrote a book on brexit. Both seemed to know their facts. Duncan smith said that a series of workshops were being run between the British and Irish to provide a solution to the border issue I think the Irish PM was called Kenny. Anyway in 2017 varadkar was voted in and according to DS he canned the workshops and influenced the EU to put this hard line position we have now. The Irish guy said in event of hard border it will be the ROI who will police it. The Irish have a hard line europhile leader. It seems to me there is a broad body of politicians both inside and outside Britain who are doing everything they can to frustrate brexit. But what they might end up doing is hurting the public in Britain and Ireland something I don't think will be forgiven


IDS: Not one job will be lost because of Brexit.

The following week 900 jobs lost as a direct result of Brexit

Britain votes to leave the EU. The Irish Taoiseach is to blame.

You are off your head.

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Varadkar is no friend of Britain that's for sure. Britain won't forget that next time Ireland needs bailing out, which probably won't be far down the line. The Irish border is as much in ROI interests as britains yet he has conspired to frustrate it as much as possible out of loyality to the EU which it seems is greater than his loyality to the Irish people. Still that's Ireland's business and going forward I hope their looser relationship with Britain and stronger relationship with the EU works out


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Varadkar is no friend of Britain that's for sure. Britain won't forget that next time Ireland needs bailing out, which probably won't be far down the line. The Irish border is as much in ROI interests as britains yet he has conspired to frustrate it as much as possible out of loyality to the EU which it seems is greater than his loyality to the Irish people. Still that's Ireland's business and going forward I hope their looser relationship with Britain and stronger relationship with the EU works out


So you now speak for all of Britain.

His sense of loyalty is to the people on the island of Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.

The fact that Theresa has totally reneged on an agreement that she negotiated is NOT the fault of Ireland or the EU.

The taoiseasch is putting his country before his party whereas May is putting her party before her country.

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All MP’s are putting their party or more themselves before the country not jus May. They’re all a bunch of cvnts.

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The Irish government was having a perfectly amicable discussion with the Brotish government over the border. Varadkar was elected and crushed that. Now it's been confirmed if there is a border ROI will install and run the checkpoints. A hard border borought to the Irish by varadkar. Varadkar also said last week troops would be at the border (presumably Irish troops) without a shred of evidence. That was highly irresponsible but he doesn't care a future role in the EU awaits. If the good Friday agreement is breached varadkar must take responsibility

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
The Irish government was having a perfectly amicable discussion with the Brotish government over the border. Varadkar was elected and crushed that. Now it's been confirmed if there is a border ROI will install and run the checkpoints. A hard border borought to the Irish by varadkar. Varadkar also said last week troops would be at the border (presumably Irish troops) without a shred of evidence. That was highly irresponsible but he doesn't care a future role in the EU awaits. If the good Friday agreement is breached varadkar must take responsibility


You are insane.

The border in Ireland was brought to Ireland by Britain under threat of war.

May reneged on a deal that she negotiated to ensure that there would be no hard border on the island of Ireland.

May is completely ignoring the Good Friday Agreement to appease the ERG and the DUP who were the only party in Ireland opposed to the Good Friday Agreement.

She is only interested in avoiding a split in the tory party regardless of the cost to your country and Ireland.

You have no solution to the border problem and no alternative to the Backstop Agreement so all you are left with is blaming Ireland.

The tories created the Brexit problem and it is they who must come up with solutions.

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May has fought and is continuing to fight (with the support of the DUP) to preserve the position of no hard border in Ireland. Varadkar has done all he can to frustrate that process and we face the real possibility of varadkars government installing a hard border in Ireland manned by Irish customs officers and if we are to believe varadkar Irish troops as well. What's his game ? He has probably been promised an EU commisoners post in future for services to the EU


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
May has fought and is continuing to fight (with the support of the DUP) to preserve the position of no hard border in Ireland. Varadkar has done all he can to frustrate that process and we face the real possibility of varadkars government installing a hard border in Ireland manned by Irish customs officers and if we are to believe varadkar Irish troops as well. What's his game ? He has probably been promised an EU commisoners post in future for services to the EU


Being in the EU, he is supposed to protect the EU market, so why are you surprised? It's UK who decided to leave the EU market and its rules.

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