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But it's not up to the prime minister she has to get it through parliment and parliment rejected her agreement. I agree that's crazy I still have the leaflet sent to all households before the vote and it said the government would implement your vote not parliment. Parliment could not run a whelk stall. That was installed by Gina miller and other rich establishment wreckers to stop brexit and it's not stopped brexit but created this holy mess and done damage to britains interests in the end. The issue now is not the agreement overall but focussed on the backstop. My solution to that is cut the EU out of it the suggestion recently of a bi lateral agreement with ROI seems sensible to me. The border is Britain and Ireland's problem the EU are just using as a lever creating a political mess that is just damaging both Britain and Ireland


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
But it's not up to the prime minister she has to get it through parliment and parliment rejected her agreement. I agree that's crazy I still have the leaflet sent to all households before the vote and it said the government would implement your vote not parliment. Parliment could not run a whelk stall. That was installed by Gina miller and other rich establishment wreckers to stop brexit and it's not stopped brexit but created this holy mess and done damage to britains interests in the end. The issue now is not the agreement overall but focussed on the backstop. My solution to that is cut the EU out of it the suggestion recently of a bi lateral agreement with ROI seems sensible to me. The border is Britain and Ireland's problem the EU are just using as a lever creating a political mess that is just damaging both Britain and Ireland



No, the border problem was created by Britain as a result of Brexit. The UK Government signed up to an agreement which they have now decided to renege on.

Ireland is still part of the EU and divide and conquer isn't going to wash this time around.

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But it's not up to the prime minister she has to get it through parliment and parliment rejected her agreement. I agree that's crazy I still have the leaflet sent to all households before the vote and it said the government would implement your vote not parliment. Parliment could not run a whelk stall. That was installed by Gina miller and other rich establishment wreckers to stop brexit and it's not stopped brexit but created this holy mess and done damage to britains interests in the end. The issue now is not the agreement overall but focussed on the backstop. My solution to that is cut the EU out of it the suggestion recently of a bi lateral agreement with ROI seems sensible to me. The border is Britain and Ireland's problem the EU are just using as a lever creating a political mess that is just damaging both Britain and Ireland



No, the border problem was created by Britain as a result of Brexit. The UK Government signed up to an agreement which they have now decided to renege on.

Ireland is still part of the EU and divide and conquer isn't going to wash this time around.


So what's your solution ?


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But it's not up to the prime minister she has to get it through parliment and parliment rejected her agreement. I agree that's crazy I still have the leaflet sent to all households before the vote and it said the government would implement your vote not parliment. Parliment could not run a whelk stall. That was installed by Gina miller and other rich establishment wreckers to stop brexit and it's not stopped brexit but created this holy mess and done damage to britains interests in the end. The issue now is not the agreement overall but focussed on the backstop. My solution to that is cut the EU out of it the suggestion recently of a bi lateral agreement with ROI seems sensible to me. The border is Britain and Ireland's problem the EU are just using as a lever creating a political mess that is just damaging both Britain and Ireland



No, the border problem was created by Britain as a result of Brexit. The UK Government signed up to an agreement which they have now decided to renege on.

Ireland is still part of the EU and divide and conquer isn't going to wash this time around.


So what's your solution ?


It's an old fashioned solution. When you sign up to an agreement try honouring it.

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and if parliment reject it what do you do then ?

i agree with you the government should decide but it was the remain politicians who decided parliment should decide. With the intention of stopping brexit but all they have succeeded is in creating a political mess

I would have voted for mays deal so again how would you get mays deal past parliument ?


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and if parliment reject it what do you do then ?

i agree with you the government should decide but it was the remain politicians who decided parliment should decide. With the intention of stopping brexit but all they have succeeded is in creating a political mess

I would have voted for mays deal so again how would you get mays deal past parliument ?


No the tories created this mess.

Labour have exploited it.

The ERG and the DUP have used it to try and force a No Deal Brxit.
May was never going to get her deal past parliament as a No Deal Brexit is what the two groups mentioned above really want.

May is a dead duck PM and if she had any honour at all she would resign.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Good day for brexit yesterday parliment at last starting to take this seriously. Anything could still happen which is ridiculous 2 months before we leave but we have to live with our silly MP,s. The EU say they will not amend the withdrawal agreement maybe not. But they will find something in my view and it will be called someone else. All this is just a big game. To me it looks like the so called people's vote is dead in the water also the extending article 50. I am more confident we will be leaving the EU in march. And Man City got beat too quite a night !


Good day for Brexit? Sorry, but I haven't noticed any different day. May has been saying for weeks that the EU will not re-open the agreement, but now she is saying they will, wtf, seriously. She is an immense and resilient flip flopper. She doesn't seem to have any principles and vision, don't know how anybody can lead like that. Maybe this is what is required given the situation, I've rarely seen that. Anybody else would have resigned or called a general election, or both.

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May is trying to get brexit through with a deal and making heroic efforts while most of parliment is playing games. May had a deal and I would have voted for it. However it was unanimously rejected by parliment. So she has to try alternatives. I see a lot of posts on here throwing bottles at may but no one post explaining what their solution would be. Anyone can criticise it's easy but finding a solution needs someone with a lot more in their locker clearly with a lot more than you have


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
May is trying to get brexit through with a deal and making heroic efforts while most of parliment is playing games. May had a deal and I would have voted for it. However it was unanimously rejected by parliment. So she has to try alternatives. I see a lot of posts on here throwing bottles at may but no one post explaining what their solution would be. Anyone can criticise it's easy but finding a solution needs someone with a lot more in their locker clearly with a lot more than you have


Theresa May is making heroic efforts... to stop the tory party from splitting at the expense of the nation

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