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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
I don’t know. I’ve not read it nor have I claimed it’s good or bad. I’m asking someone who said it’s crap why it’s crap and just like everyone who takes that stance he can’t give me an answer apart from that it’s May’s deal and it didn’t get through so must be crap! My 5 year old could come up with a more intellectual answer than that.

From what I know, it gets us out of the customs union and stops free movement (both things Brexiteers wanted) and also protects the Irish border possibly at the UK’s cost long term. As I didn’t want to leave I’m non fussed about it either way. Could be better maybe but could be worse.

But I’m not childish enough to dismiss it outright just because of who negotiated it. It’s no surprise from comrade emp who is protected by his mums bedroom regardless of the deal.


So two people are arguing about whether or not the deal is crap even though neither of them have read it. grin

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I’m just asking the question. Surely if he says it’s crap he should be able to express why other than that it’s come from May? But as ALL MO’s who say it’s crap can’t I’m not sure why I expect a chap in his bedroom can.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
I’m just asking the question. Surely if he says it’s crap he should be able to express why other than that it’s come from May? But as ALL MO’s who say it’s crap can’t I’m not sure why I expect a chap in his bedroom can.


You seem happy with it and you haven't even read it.

That's no better than emp's opinion. He think's it's crap and he hasn't read it either.

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Didn’t say I was happy with it. Said I was non fussed. I’d have been happy staying in as nothing we get will be as good.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Didn’t say I was happy with it. Said I was non fussed. I’d have been happy staying in as nothing we get will be as good.


In what normal society would you be able to offer someone a worse deal than they currently have and expect them to actually accept it.

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Well they have to offer what the majority voted for and her deal kind of does. But it’s not the people that are the sticking point it’s all the politicians that have equally divided views on what deal we can get.

I personally don’t see any deal getting through. I don’t think any deal would have got through from anyone as there’s no clear majority of thinking on what the deal should be. It’s crazy that we’ve come to this.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well they have to offer what the majority voted for and her deal kind of does. But it’s not the people that are the sticking point it’s all the politicians that have equally divided views on what deal we can get.

I personally don’t see any deal getting through. I don’t think any deal would have got through from anyone as there’s no clear majority of thinking on what the deal should be. It’s crazy that we’ve come to this.


I think staying in the customs union would have a very slight majority, but, Theresa Maybe doesn't seem to want that.

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In my opinion other than we can't unilaterally exit the backstop I think the deal is a fair compromise. In my opinion it's neither good nor bad but acceptable. The results of the 2017 general election were very clear the people wanted to deliver brexit but in a way that protects against short term disruption. And that's what this deal delivers. I think May has done a decent job against all opposition from all sides most for childish party polical reasons. Mays deal is not the brexit I would choose but no deal will get what everyone wants that would be impossible. And yes I have read the deal.


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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well they have to offer what the majority voted for and her deal kind of does. But it’s not the people that are the sticking point it’s all the politicians that have equally divided views on what deal we can get.

I personally don’t see any deal getting through. I don’t think any deal would have got through from anyone as there’s no clear majority of thinking on what the deal should be. It’s crazy that we’ve come to this.


I think staying in the customs union would have a very slight majority, but, Theresa Maybe doesn't seem to want that.


Is that brexit though? Most who voted out didn’t want to be in a customs union or have the free movement that’d have to accompany it.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Well they have to offer what the majority voted for and her deal kind of does. But it’s not the people that are the sticking point it’s all the politicians that have equally divided views on what deal we can get.

I personally don’t see any deal getting through. I don’t think any deal would have got through from anyone as there’s no clear majority of thinking on what the deal should be. It’s crazy that we’ve come to this.


I think staying in the customs union would have a very slight majority, but, Theresa Maybe doesn't seem to want that.


Is that brexit though? Most who voted out didn’t want to be in a customs union or have the free movement that’d have to accompany it.


Customs union doesn't have anything to do with free movement, Turkey is in the customs union.

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