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No idea what's going on. My best guess brexit is dead in the water. But how ? Basically by parliment stopping it. At the time of the referendum on the government leaflet we were told government would implement not parliment. Parliment agrees on nothing it's just a series of factions. I go on some brexit forums the hard core brexiteers are delighted because they think we will go out with no deal. I think they are going to be disappointed. When this dawns on the public I fear what could come next. As wilki says our political system is an utter shambles and maybe that's what we need to change
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Even the government is mad up of factions. That’s how bad and devicive this topic is.
And yes, we need to change our political system. A clean sweep of ALL current incumbents as they’ve ALL to a man and woman proved their own needs and wants far out weigh those of the country. I’m not one for revolutions but that’s one I’d get right behind.
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Even the government is mad up of factions. That’s how bad and devicive this topic is.
And yes, we need to change our political system. A clean sweep of ALL current incumbents as they’ve ALL to a man and woman proved their own needs and wants far out weigh those of the country. I’m not one for revolutions but that’s one I’d get right behind. Now now wilki, none of that lefty talk 
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She ain’t great vish but at least she’s had the balls to have a go at this when all those who campaigned so hard for it ran away and hid.
But then you look at the alternatives from any of the parties and realise it’s not so bad. Yes she had the balls, what I mean is that she doesn't play politics to get what she wants, ie, threatening, pressuring etc. If she had told all MPs that if her deal is not voted, she would go for a general election, I think even Labour MPs who are not sure to get re-elected would have voted for her deal. Yes DUP wouldn't have, but she might have win the vote. I think to clean the mess a general election would be better than a new referendum, however, a new minority government would be back to square 0
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If we had a new referendum the earliest it could take place is seven months from today assuming we called it today. And whatever the questions where (some are taking about three or four) then we would all be in dispute over what they should be. Complete and utter insantity.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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If we had a new referendum the earliest it could take place is seven months from today assuming we called it today. And whatever the questions where (some are taking about three or four) then we would all be in dispute over what they should be. Complete and utter insantity. Whatever happened to taking back control. The pantomime continues as time runs out.
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If we had a new referendum the earliest it could take place is seven months from today assuming we called it today. And whatever the questions where (some are taking about three or four) then we would all be in dispute over what they should be. Complete and utter insantity. Whatever happened to taking back control. The pantomime continues as time runs out. It is a pantomime it's a complete joke. But do you have an ideas other than pulling your tounge out ? Personally I thought Theresa Mays deal was a decent compromise but obviously our MP,s thought differently. However what they do want is a mystery. They are in danger of doing huge damage to both our economy and our Democracy with uncertain consequences
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If we had a new referendum the earliest it could take place is seven months from today assuming we called it today. And whatever the questions where (some are taking about three or four) then we would all be in dispute over what they should be. Complete and utter insantity. Whatever happened to taking back control. The pantomime continues as time runs out. It is a pantomime it's a complete joke. But do you have an ideas other than pulling your tounge out ? Personally I thought Theresa Mays deal was a decent compromise but obviously our MP,s thought differently. However what they do want is a mystery. They are in danger of doing huge damage to both our economy and our Democracy with uncertain consequences So we can take strong and stable off the menu as well. Parliament doesn't know what it wants and that isn't going to change any time soon. Yet the 29th of March is fast approaching. May is now a dead duck PM with no authority and I have no idea why she hasn't resigned after suffering such a humiliating defeat.
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Even the government is mad up of factions. That’s how bad and devicive this topic is.
And yes, we need to change our political system. A clean sweep of ALL current incumbents as they’ve ALL to a man and woman proved their own needs and wants far out weigh those of the country. I’m not one for revolutions but that’s one I’d get right behind. Now now wilki, none of that lefty talk It’s not leftie talk. Just sense. ALL politicians from ALL parties need dumping. They’re all just in it for themselves. Anyone who thinks any of them aren’t are just naive. It’d be a very middle class, centerist revolition.
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She ain’t great vish but at least she’s had the balls to have a go at this when all those who campaigned so hard for it ran away and hid.
But then you look at the alternatives from any of the parties and realise it’s not so bad. Yes she had the balls, what I mean is that she doesn't play politics to get what she wants, ie, threatening, pressuring etc. If she had told all MPs that if her deal is not voted, she would go for a general election, I think even Labour MPs who are not sure to get re-elected would have voted for her deal. Yes DUP wouldn't have, but she might have win the vote. I think to clean the mess a general election would be better than a new referendum, however, a new minority government would be back to square 0 Yeah perhaps. You know she’s have been hammered for playing with our future though. Might have been worth a gamble though.
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