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TAA for me too, but he has made a few unnecessary mistakes in the last few games, just hope he learns from them.
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He makes way too many mistakes for my liking, and I think that Madrid will clearly see him as a weak link and target him from the start.
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He makes way too many mistakes for my liking, and I think that Madrid will clearly see him as a weak link and target him from the start. True, he does sometimes get away with it like against Sane but not always like against Rashford. I still think Clyne is better but needs to be fit.
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There's a difference between fit and matchfit. Clyne has barely kicked a ball all season. To throw him in the final when he hasnt proved himself would be a slap in the face for Trent, who has been there and played well for the majority of the season. Also, this game isnt going to be won by the defence. An un-matchfit Clyne isnt going to be better against ronaldo and marcelo than a Matchfit trent is. In fact, most people arnt going to do well defensively against them. What Trent offers is going forward. An outlet with pace on the wing who can whip decent balls into the box. I think that will be way more useful. It's not about protecting his feelings (or face!). This decision must be solely based on who will do a better job with the particular plans that Klopp wants to use on Saturday. It's about what will benefit the 'team'. And I think TAA is nowhere near as good as people are making out - 1 good game a month doesn't fill me with much confidence against the most successful club side in European history. Salah will have to sit deeper to help him out as he WILL be targeted as our weak link. That's not where we want Salah to be.
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Play the lads who got us here. Why? We need to play our best available players, no emotions Those are our best players. Clyne has less champions league experience than Trent, not more. Trent is faster, bigger, better on the ball, sharper, and more experienced in Europe I like Clyne, but he's on the bench. Can is an option, and would likely be my first sub, but he's been out. A fit Clyne is a better defender than TAA, so would play him if he is fit and ready. With TAA you can expect the best or the worst as with any player of that age. He might have been a better defender last year, but he has not shown that this year. Trent is sharp, and he's kept some of the best forwards in Europe in his pocket this season. He is the player in form, he has earned his place in the final, and make no mistake, Klopp will pick him. Being fearful and second guessing the approach that got us this far is not the way to win this game. Trent is a big part of the way we play. Who's to say how things would have gone without his free kick in the first leg with Hoffenheim? Or his performances against Sane?
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This game isn't about the future, it's about a chance to bring home the trophy. The best available should play. Souness' last game was a Cl final, and what a swansong it was. If he wins the match, I don't care if he fcks off next year. At least we knew Souness & Keegan were going and we got transfer fees for them both...not this... will he or won't he nonsense we've had to endure from Can for nearly a year and a half! Judged on his history with us, he'd be no use to man nor beast coming back from injury and not match fit. We should have put him in the reserves awhile back and made him make up his mind! Regardless of where he's going, Can has always tried his best. He's played injured and played with injections this year, and he has played a significant part in getting us this far. Whether on not he signs a new deal is his decision, and so long as he plays his hardest, I don't mind him leaving. He hasn't lied a la Coutinho, he's given 100% while on the pitch, and given us his best season in a red shirt to date. I don't think he starts, but we need more players on the bench. Our squad is thinner than Growler's lucky undies. Madrid will have the likes of Kovacic, Ascencio, and Either Isco or Bale coming of the bench. We'll have Lallana and . . Ings? Solanke? Ben Woodburn? Leaving him out for sheer spite is foolish, and not a luxury we can afford. Especially if this goes to extra time, we will need fresh legs and someone who can take a pen.
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Well maybe, but Ronaldo likes to bomb down the wing, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't see an opportunity there, giving the way TAA goes forward, and his inexperience. Anyway it's going to be a fascinating tactical battle. No he doesn't. He hasn't been bombing down the wing in almost 2 years. He's more of a CF these days. Deadly in the box, good in the air, positionally smart, but not exactly pacy anymore. He has touch and skill, but he's not a dribbler or show pony anymore. Ronaldo is going to be more VVVD and Lovren's problem than Trent's.
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Well maybe, but Ronaldo likes to bomb down the wing, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't see an opportunity there, giving the way TAA goes forward, and his inexperience. Anyway it's going to be a fascinating tactical battle. No he doesn't. He hasn't been bombing down the wing in almost 2 years. He's more of a CF these days. Deadly in the box, good in the air, positionally smart, but not exactly pacy anymore. He has touch and skill, but he's not a dribbler or show pony anymore. Ronaldo is going to be more VVVD and Lovren's problem than Trent's. I agree, said similar earlier, Ronaldo will target Lovren as he is more vulnerable and has a mistake in him, will be interesting to see if Klopp has VvD sticking close to Ronaldo as VvD is positionally much better and stronger.
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