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Before he took over, we were in the mid-table wilderness and non-existent in Europe.

Since he took over, we have been to the Europa Final and now the CL QFs, and we're the tournament's top scorers. He's also on course to finish at least 3rd if not 2nd this year, after 4th last year. 2 cup finals vs the previous manager's zero.

Given where we've been, I would say he's doing well.

Spot on.
better than last year, and going to be even better again next.

In Klopp, most of us trust and admire.
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Also judge him on the quality of squad he took over.....

Rodgers had the likes of Gerrard, Suarez, STurridge, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Henderson, Reina, Lucas, Sterling. Liverpool had just won a trophy.

Klopp came in to allot of them gone and replaced with players like Balotelli, Benteke, Migs, Markovic & Origi and a failing team with very little quality and confidence,

Yeah I think it's pretty obvious Rodgers inherited the better squad and was carried by Suarez that year. Not down-playing his tenure, he did ok but was probably just out of his depth, but Klopp is slowly building a very good team. Just needs more investment.

It's a shame we didn't win it that year with BR, with City's investment and the way they're playing, it'll take some team to catch them so Klopp's challenge is probably that much harder than BR's was.

Yep, Man Utd are also rebuilding now and are investing, the early post Fergy years and before Man City seriously invested with Pep was the time to really go for it, it feels further away than ever with Man City's dominance, but I felt the same with Chelsea 10 years ago, so you never know!

I liked Rodgers, 2013-2014 we played some great football, but he lost the plot in the end, I think he was just out of his depth at a big club with the pressure of new owners who didn't understand the league, I also doubt how much control he had on things like player recruitment, the Balotelli debacle shows that, I think Klopp has the control he wants and runs the club more from a football perspective, as he could demand that to accept the job as a proven successful manager, whereas Rodgers had to agree to whatever FSG said.

Carragher & Reina past their best were still better than the equivalent that Klopp inherited. Allot of money was spent by Rodgers team, allot from the Suarez sale.

And lots of other clubs think they should win a domestic cup also (and pay more for the task), no club has a divine right to win a cup. Klopp has got to more cup finals than Rodgers ever did, Dalglish won a cup, but you denounce him when he delivered all your dreams....

I think Rodgers gets unfair criticism, when got closer than any manager in the last 25 years winning to the league. But he had one good season out of 3 and a half.

Your assessment of the team Rodgers inherited is inaccurate. Reina is good enough to play in a European outfit like Napoli, so he was hardly finished. Gerrard was only 31 at the time and still had plenty left in the tank. 13-14 was one of his most productive seasons in years. Suarez was just hitting his peak. Sterling was the most exciting young English talent out there and was our talisman after Suarez left (4th top scorer in the league right now).

Klopp inherited a team that relied on Sturridge for goals (who was more injury prone than Agger), Mignolet in goal, no defensive leaders, and no real standout players.

The best players he inherited from Rodgers were out of favor and not performing (Firmino, Lallana, Can) or wildly inconsistent (Coutinho) or injured (Sturridge, Henderson, also Lallana). He got more out of all of those players than Rodgers ever did, aside from the ones who were always injured like Hendo or Sturridge. The rest were fringe players or not good enoughs like Markovic, Joe Allen, Benteke, Skrtel, etc.

Despite that, he has something he can point to as improvement in EACH season he's been there (2 cup finals, then improved league position CL, now even more improved league position and Cl quarters. So Klopps more comprehensive improvement means more to me than Rodgers' one very exciting season.

Dalglish never signed these players, Comolli signed all players during Dalglish reign including Suarez.

Indeed, he was brought in to steer the ship out of a very bad patch under Hodgson and FSG wanted a European style of management with a Director of Football to sign players and a coach, Dalglish was anyway too far from modern football for a long time to follow players. He was brought not even for the medium term and was to stay only for 6 months initially. Taking us to 2 finals winning one is still a big achievement.