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Dalglish stabilised us and won a cup after the dire Hodgson, while bringing through some of the young players, he did a good job, but was never going to be the long term manager.

But you often say the PL is a dead competition for Liverpool, so we should concentrate on the domestic cups? the next year he could have won another cup(s), so why sack him if he's winning Cups? I actually agree we needed to take a long term view, like we have with Klopp, Daglish was just brought back to stabilise the club after the debacle of Hodgson and H&G.

I agree Dalglish didn't handle the Suarez situation well, but it also felt like he was left to deal with it, some of the PR/Media/Corporate people should have handled that rather than KD in an old school team bonding way.

As for transfers, he was there when Suarez was bought, same with Henderson who turned out an excellent buy also, some bad buys as well, still not sure who actually bought the players with Comolli brought in for recruitment.

His age had nothing to do with it, he'd been out the game about 15 years, he was brought in at short notice when FSG fired Hodgson, if I remember he had to fly back from a cruise for the FA Cup Utd game? so it was hardy planned ! so I don't think he was brought in as a long term replacement, he had a contract initially until the end of the season.

The problem FSG had is that they installed a club hero as manager, so was always going to be difficult to replace, they brought him in to appease the fans abit as well I think, as new owners.

We can agree to differ, it's abit of an understatement to say he 'coincided' with the 87/88 team, one of my fave teams also with Barnes, one of my fave Liverpool players ever, he coached and built that team, as manager he carries responsibility, good and bad, so as you hold him responsible for failures of 2011/2012, you need to hold him responsible for the success of 87/88 + the other years.

I think Henderson was a good buy and is one of our best midfielders, when he plays we move the ball faster and have more movement, if he wouldn't have got suspended at the end of 2013-2104 season we might have won it, we really missed him, he's not perfect by any means, If he remains fit I'd have him as a squad player, we should have other midfielders as good, if not better if we are going to win the PL.

Wow some very astute comments mate. Also I might add, no disrespect to the great man, but I think that Kenny made a mistake becoming player manager. He simply was not experienced enough and the club should never have approached him, but Kenny is fearless and in love with the club and could not say NO.
I was strange when he stood down from management then changed his mind to take on Blackburn.

.....And currently Henderson..we all know my opinions of Captain seagull-chaser.

17m for Henderson was a good buy and as you say, it showed in that home game against Chelsea. His injuries lately is not helping him but for that price it was fine.

Greatest player Souness? Na, got to be Gerrard. Even Thompson agreed with that on Soccer Saturday. As far as captaincy goes, again Gerrard.

Henderson did epitomise the club a few seasons back and we should have got shut when Spurs were sniffing but since Mane, Salah and VVD's arrival... the team demands a more influential captain and I can see VVD being that man in the not too distant future.

Henderson is even better value for money if you consider we paid twice as much at the same time for the dancing donkey Carroll.

Henderson is not useless he would be a good squad player but in terms of our midfielders no where near the top souness McMahon Gerrard Hughes alonso no where near

I never said anything about Henderson being the captain? I think that was a mistake, he has no presence and does not get involved, especially now with him missing so many games through injury, while he stays I doubt Klopp will take the captaincy off him, as that will be like a vote of no confidence in him and the press would be all over it with him being English, but I expect VvD will take over the captains role on the pitch.

I think Henderson is one of our best midfielders at the moment, but I also think our Midfield is pretty poor and needs major improvement, as I said, Henderson is one of our best as he injects pace and movement in the midfield, which we lack with Can & Wij who tend to keep on the ball and take too many touches, whereas Henderson moves the ball on quickly and exploits space, he also has a decent long pass on him. But as I said, we should be aiming for Henderson to be a squad player, to win the PL we need better quality midfielders ahead of him, i'm hoping Keita is the start of that, Can is going, Milner is ageing and Wij is a squad player at best, Lallana has the quality if he comes back from injury ok.

As for Kenny, your right, FSG should not have brought him back, I said as much by saying bringing back a legend created problems for them, also, his last few years in the 80's were heavily affecting him with what he went through with the club, he was heading for a breakdown, he had to walk away for his health, he admits himself he lost the plot at the end and made some odd decisions, Souness then came in and made too many changes too quickly, we made allot of bad decisions around that time.