I don't agree Suso, we should be showing progression, 2nd or 3rd would show that, and 2nd more than 3rd, also it would mean we finish ahead of United, and what a lift that would be. Then you have to remember that 4th only qualifies for a playoff, and would be no progression from last season. There's also bragging right at stake and a few extra Bob to keep John happy. That's all very important stuff there.