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Yes FSG appointed Klopp to overachieve - whether they realise it or not!

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FSG probably wouldn't sack Klopp if we finished 4th. And most people on here wouldn't want Klopp sacked even if we didn't get top 4.

However, there's a difference between finsihing 4th after competing, getting close and missing out.... and finishing 4th by scraping into 4th largely because the other contenders for 4th are worse.

The main thing though is that Klopp shows no signs of learning anything about how to improve the defence. We are only 6 points behind 2nd place. Given the forward line we have/had we should be much closer. But the failure to addreess the goalkeeping situation and the defence in 3 years has cost us. We have wasted yet another opportunity. Coutinho has gone and nobody will be surprised if Salah is targetted in the summer.


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Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
FSG probably wouldn't sack Klopp if we finished 4th. And most people on here wouldn't want Klopp sacked even if we didn't get top 4.

However, there's a difference between finsihing 4th after competing, getting close and missing out.... and finishing 4th by scraping into 4th largely because the other contenders for 4th are worse.

The main thing though is that Klopp shows no signs of learning anything about how to improve the defence. We are only 6 points behind 2nd place. Given the forward line we have/had we should be much closer. But the failure to addreess the goalkeeping situation and the defence in 3 years has cost us. We have wasted yet another opportunity. Coutinho has gone and nobody will be surprised if Salah is targetted in the summer.


Seems like most in here wanted him gone after 2 losses.

But anyway, the buggest issue is, like you say, the failure to address the obvious and to persist with shitte. He hasn't looked like addressing it in the 5 transfer windows we've had so I don't see why he will in the future.

Hopefully they'll bin him before the summer but if not you can bet your life that Migs will still be here and fighting with Karius for the number one spot and Moreno will be starting LB. We'll have bought about three more AM players though so all will be well.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
FSG probably wouldn't sack Klopp if we finished 4th. And most people on here wouldn't want Klopp sacked even if we didn't get top 4.

However, there's a difference between finsihing 4th after competing, getting close and missing out.... and finishing 4th by scraping into 4th largely because the other contenders for 4th are worse.

The main thing though is that Klopp shows no signs of learning anything about how to improve the defence. We are only 6 points behind 2nd place. Given the forward line we have/had we should be much closer. But the failure to addreess the goalkeeping situation and the defence in 3 years has cost us. We have wasted yet another opportunity. Coutinho has gone and nobody will be surprised if Salah is targetted in the summer.


Seems like most in here wanted him gone after 2 losses.

But anyway, the buggest issue is, like you say, the failure to address the obvious and to persist with shitte. He hasn't looked like addressing it in the 5 transfer windows we've had so I don't see why he will in the future.

Hopefully they'll bin him before the summer but if not you can bet your life that Migs will still be here and fighting with Karius for the number one spot and Moreno will be starting LB. We'll have bought about three more AM players though so all will be well.


I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or this is what you feel.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
but if not you can bet your life that Migs will still be here and fighting with Karius for the number one spot and Moreno will be starting LB.


The worrying thing is that we can all see this happening.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
FSG probably wouldn't sack Klopp if we finished 4th. And most people on here wouldn't want Klopp sacked even if we didn't get top 4.

However, there's a difference between finsihing 4th after competing, getting close and missing out.... and finishing 4th by scraping into 4th largely because the other contenders for 4th are worse.

The main thing though is that Klopp shows no signs of learning anything about how to improve the defence. We are only 6 points behind 2nd place. Given the forward line we have/had we should be much closer. But the failure to addreess the goalkeeping situation and the defence in 3 years has cost us. We have wasted yet another opportunity. Coutinho has gone and nobody will be surprised if Salah is targetted in the summer.


Seems like most in here wanted him gone after 2 losses.

But anyway, the buggest issue is, like you say, the failure to address the obvious and to persist with shitte. He hasn't looked like addressing it in the 5 transfer windows we've had so I don't see why he will in the future.

Hopefully they'll bin him before the summer but if not you can bet your life that Migs will still be here and fighting with Karius for the number one spot and Moreno will be starting LB. We'll have bought about three more AM players though so all will be well.


I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or this is what you feel.


Well what's the point keeping him? He's won nothing for us and doesn't see and want to fix our main issue. Just get rid. No other top club would stand for this in a manager so why should we?

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
but if not you can bet your life that Migs will still be here and fighting with Karius for the number one spot and Moreno will be starting LB.


The worrying thing is that we can all see this happening.


You know it will. I can only imagine that all these shitte players he persists with have some David Cameron style compormising pictures of him. There is no other reason you'd keep picking the same shitte week in week out to just constantly let you down. There is also no excuse for not removing them from the club.

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but if not you can bet your life that Migs will still be here and fighting with Karius for the number one spot and Moreno will be starting LB.


The worrying thing is that we can all see this happening.


You know it will. I can only imagine that all these shitte players he persists with have some David Cameron style compormising pictures of him. There is no other reason you'd keep picking the same shitte week in week out to just constantly let you down. There is also no excuse for not removing them from the club.


I agree wholeheartedly with this.

Remember when Houllier bought Kirkland and Dudek immediately after Westerveld made another, and ultimately final error away at Bolton? No messing around, Klopp needs to do the same.

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Yeah, seemed brutal at the time but it made a difference. I can understand Rodgers sticking with Migs how he did as it was his buy. But why Klopp does is beyond me. Would any other top manager or club settle for that? At least now we might not see him again unless he gets ECL games. Not sure Karius is an upgrade but it's a risk worth taking.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Yeah, seemed brutal at the time but it made a difference. I can understand Rodgers sticking with Migs how he did as it was his buy. But why Klopp does is beyond me. Would any other top manager or club settle for that? At least now we might not see him again unless he gets ECL games. Not sure Karius is an upgrade but it's a risk worth taking.


I don't think Klopp wants to stick with Mignolet, in fact he bought Karius to become number one but the latter was so bad that he had to move him to the bench after the Bornemouth game when we lost 4-3 after leading by 3-1 I think. He is trying again by making him number one recently.

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