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We have enough money to maintain our position within the second tier of the prem that's now good enough for LFC ? Not the club I grew up with ! No one is saying it's good enough but it's the situation we're in. And if you don't want a spending spree then how will we get out of it? I have not got the master plan to get us out of this but then that's not my job. Let me give you another example Man Utd fans they are really not happy bunnies at the moment they can see themselves slipping behind City but the difference is they are mad as hell we simply accept the position.
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We have enough money to maintain our position within the second tier of the prem that's now good enough for LFC ? Not the club I grew up with ! No one is saying it's good enough but it's the situation we're in. And if you don't want a spending spree then how will we get out of it? I have not got the master plan to get us out of this but then that's not my job. Let me give you another example Man Utd fans they are really not happy bunnies at the moment they can see themselves slipping behind City but the difference is they are mad as hell we simply accept the position. We haven't won the league in on over a quarter of a century. That tends to blunt enthusiasm. United haven't won it since Fergie left. Their madness will gradually evaporate just as ours did.
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We have enough money to maintain our position within the second tier of the prem that's now good enough for LFC ? Not the club I grew up with ! No one is saying it's good enough but it's the situation we're in. And if you don't want a spending spree then how will we get out of it? I have not got the master plan to get us out of this but then that's not my job. Let me give you another example Man Utd fans they are really not happy bunnies at the moment they can see themselves slipping behind City but the difference is they are mad as hell we simply accept the position. Who's not angry and accepting it? Acknowledging where we are and the reason why doesn't mean we accept it.
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I think shaggys post above encapsulates it " enthusiasm blunted" " fire in bellies doused"
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I've lost enthusiasm for football in general. It's more a circus than a sport now. But my desire for us to win hasn't faded and I'm far from happy at our barron spell. But what is moaning on an internet forum going to get me?
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I've lost enthusiasm for football in general. It's more a circus than a sport now. But my desire for us to win hasn't faded and I'm far from happy at our barron spell. But what is moaning on an internet forum going to get me? Release of stress / frustration ?
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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We have enough money to maintain our position within the second tier of the prem that's now good enough for LFC ? Not the club I grew up with ! No one is saying it's good enough but it's the situation we're in. And if you don't want a spending spree then how will we get out of it? I have not got the master plan to get us out of this but then that's not my job. Let me give you another example Man Utd fans they are really not happy bunnies at the moment they can see themselves slipping behind City but the difference is they are mad as hell we simply accept the position. I'm sure if we were slipping behind Fat Joe's Everton, our fans would be mad as hell as well but I know what you mean. It doesn't help that groups like SOS (Spirit Of Shankly) seem to be content with the "It will happen one day" approach to our success and Henry is virtually invisible.
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I've lost enthusiasm for football in general. It's more a circus than a sport now. But my desire for us to win hasn't faded and I'm far from happy at our barron spell. But what is moaning on an internet forum going to get me? Release of stress / frustration ? It's a form of therapy Stan.
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This is probably going to be one of my final posts under this name before I get reported of Dunk sees am back on so sod it I will tell you what I think regardless.
I honestly feel for fans like Stanley who have the belief that Liverpool
Are still the same mythical club they were back in the 70s and 80s, you know why...coz I was one of them.
The same fall from grace we are having now is exactly the same one as Forest, Leeds, Everton and Villa had before us, it' doesn't happen straight away it's a trickle, the trophies become one every two years, then one in five or one in twelve like ours then you get to Everton none in nearly 25 years. The league titles go the same Villa last won it 35 years ago, Leeds 26 years, Liverpool 28, Everton 31 and Spurs nearly 60 years ago. If you ask fans of any of those Clubs now they. Will tell you they don't expect to win a league and deep down they know the footballing landscape has changed to the point they won't win the league again or get back to the top.
Before anybody says we haven't dropped that low...I know that, but like I say it's a gradual thing, like a trickle but that's the way we are heading. The big problem we had stems from when SKY took over, we had only won the league three seasons earlier so as a club still had momentum, we never spent the required funds, Dalglish was the wrong manager to take us forward and the club infirastructure was well behind the other clubs, we had a caravan selling rosettes in the1980s while Everton and United had superstores, anybody who went to Barnsley in an FA Cup game back at the time will tell you their Club shops was three times as big as ours and we had won three European Cups.
The SKY taking over was the time to really go for it we never, United did and they got there success at exactly the right time and have never looked back since, they invested in the team and stadium.
Like I say I am probably going to be banned anyway so why not talk about a subject close to my heart....Out Of Towners..
Remember watching the News a couple of years ago and the report was on a school in Leeds, at break time it showed the kids wearing their football tops and there was Leeds tops but also City ones with Aguero and Silva and United ones with Rooney, I nearly fell off my seat, this is Leeds a footballing hotbed and you have hound up and coming Leeds kids turning their backs on the local club, one of the biggest in their day to support a team from a rival City...Manchester the rivalry between Leeds and United is as fierce as ours.
I think of all the Clubs over the next 10 years who will go out of business because the local fans and lifeblood of any club have decided to turn their backs on them and instead attach themselves to famous more glamorous clubs. I am closely watching Tranmere, I fear for them I really do, years ago they played home games on a Friday night so the same fans could go and watch Liverpool or Everton the next day, they got good attendances those Friday night games too, once Everton and Liverpool raised there prices fans couldn't do both so the attendebces started to drop, Tranmere sunk and have now dropped out of the League.
The question I always ask and to this day I have never got an answer to is what would happen to all the Clubs below the Premiership if all fans find what most Liverpool, United, City and Chelsea fans do which is pick them to support because there local one isn't good enough? Believe me there's will be some famous clubs going busy in the next 10 years or so mark my words....
Anyway going to leave it there' for now so hope you have enjoyed my little post and I hope it has made some of you think a bit about things......
I await being insulted or having my post picked holes in or Dunk banning me, which happens first I really don't know haha... So long as you're not Patrick Swayze, you'll be ok. As far as your posts go, they're not all shi!te. You've made some good points here.
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