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#587052 10/12/17 06:09 PM
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That we have a shyte defence which will usually concede, we need at least 1 top CB probably 2, all his players are not of the same quality and too much rotation is harmful. Also He should learn when and how to change players in a game, almost never gets is right, either he changes too late or not the right players.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
That we have a shyte defence which will usually concede, we need at least 1 top CB probably 2, all his players are not of the same quality and too much rotation is harmful. Also He should learn when and how to change players in a game, almost never gets is right, either he changes too late or not the right players.


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We shall find out in January. i don't think just getting VVD will solve the problem. Next few signings all need to be GK and defenders i think.


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So you would rather we played our best 11 every game with more games this season? Did you not see the state of us last January. He is right to rotate. Everton are [oops] we should have beat them. We are 4th in the league and in the group stages of the CL. He is doing something right

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We need defenders nothing new there. Lovern is bench player

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He knows the defence needs improving, that's why we bought Robertson and were trying to pay a World Record fee for a CB, so he's fully aware of it.

We lost today because we didn't take the chances we created, we played well considering the changes, Everton offered nothing, Lovren made a stupid mistake, the striker took advantage and ref fell for it, in the strict rules of the game, it was a penalty.

He has to rotate players or we end up like last January with lots of injured and knackered players, look at Chelsea yesterday playing the same team, a good team, but they were knackered and West Ham took advantage.

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Yeah he has to rotate, but does he have to rotate them six at a time? IMO that's ott and it cost us today. We're a different side when Coutinho isn't in it or not on song. We lack creativity and Henderson provides none whatsoever, and neither has The Ox for that matter, far too many square balls, and no penetration, e.g. How many shots did we have on target today apart from Salah's goal.

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Yeah he has to rotate, but does he have to rotate them six at a time? IMO that's ott and it cost us today. We're a different side when Coutinho isn't in it or not on song. We lack creativity and Henderson provides none whatsoever, and neither has The Ox for that matter, far too many square balls, and no penetration, e.g. How many shots did we have on target today apart from Salah's goal.


I agree, he's gone to one extreme to the other, no rotation to half the team.

I also think you have to pick the games you rotate heavily in, like this game and Chelsea, they are big challenges, you need your best team playing to get anything, at least start with your best team and take the likes of Coutinho/Firmino off when the game is pretty much won, games like Brighton you can rotate more, but 6 changes is just too much for any game you want to win.

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To be honest we should have been five nil up at half time it was the missed chances that cost us.


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Since we have a terrible defence (both tactical setup and cb's) we need to put tough games to bed early with our best attackers.

The games against Chelsea and Everton should have been with our best team as the starting XI.

Games like on Wednesday against WBrom and also against Brighton can be set up with more players rotated.

Klopp apparently thinks rotation means 6 players changed for every game.

God help us.

Also God help us regarding what he said in the post match interview: He didn't understand Lovren made a mistake. It was all on the ref (who was right).

With a mindset like that I fully understand we never learn when it comes to defending!

The point isn't whether the ref got it right or wrong. The point is to try and avoid mistakes and hence setting yourself up for a better future.

Klopp doesn't seem to grasp this at all!

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