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Originally Posted By theanfieldpigeon
He bought a 75 million defender. We conceded against the then top scorers in the league when our defence was absolutely knackered from pressing them all game and without our best defender. Again 18 games unbeaten in all competitions. In terms of shots on our goal we have one of the lowest in the league meaning we’re doing something right. Not complicated at all, just your point clearly doesn’t hold water.


That we have a poor defence? Really?

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Hi everyone! Does somebody think that our manager mistaked his tactics? Because for me it remains a succesful manager
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Originally Posted By theanfieldpigeon
You want me to spell out your own points for you? Jesus wept. Ok I again refer to the title of this thread. “When will Klopp learn” we have one of the lowest shots on goals conceded in the league. We’ve spent a record amount of money on a defender and have went 18 games unbeaten in all competitions. Your point of Klopp not learning and not addressing the defence doesn’t hold water.


He probably learnt and bought a defender for 75m and conceding so many from the lowest number of shots says a lot of our defence. I don't think you need to involve Jesus. Are you saying we have/had a good defence?

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Originally Posted By theanfieldpigeon
Your point of Klopp not learning and not addressing the defence doesn’t hold water.


He hasn't resolved the obvious goalkeeping problem we have and no other top club rotates there goalkeepers as much as we do.

I'm firmly behind Klopp but there are still areas both he and the team can improve. We are on a great run but we can't outscore the opposition every week. It's great to see Van Dijk being signed but a top goalkeeper must follow.

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Originally Posted By theanfieldpigeon
The point you were making was about the defence. Not the goalkeeper. If we've conceded less shots than many but yet still conceded goals...does that say more about the defence as a whole or the goalkeeper? Dont worry, I'll give you time to figure that one out.


When you have a team with so much possession it's normal that we concede less shots, even if I give you all the time in the world I don't think you'll figure out that we have a weak defence. It's not only the goal keeper. Again just to understand, are you saying we have had a good defence under Klopp? Btw, goalkeepers are part of the defence

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Originally Posted By theanfieldpigeon
Again, avoiding the points I made. You stated "will klopp ever learn". We spent a record amount on a defender and have went 18 games unbeaten. The point was and I will reiterate "WILL KLOPP LEARN?" Surely buying THE MOST EXPENSIVE DEFENDER EVER shows that yes..he has learned and is attempting to fix the problem? Also, the defence and Goalkeeper are both predominantly responsible for keeping goals out of the back of our net yes, but they are both completely different positions and have other different individual responsibilities. To say the goalkeeper is part of the defence is akin to saying a midfielder is part of the attack, while yes they share some responsibility it is a misnomer.


I've just checked and I did my post on the 10 Dec 2017. So yes, he has learned as we bought VVD beginning of Jan, this is exactly what I was saying. 18 games unbeaten doesn't say how we defend, the number of goals we concede does and if you watched our games, goals we conceded were not GK mistakes bar a few. So in brief, looks like he is learning. He bought a player instead of asking to name 5 CBs who could improve our defence.

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