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The yanks come from a different culture, they're only interested in anything that can be commercialised and exploited for profit, hence the tendency to see profit and enjoyment/entertainment as being synonymous. They have little love or regard for tradition, history or sport for it's own sake.
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If Staveley is after us now for her rich friends, I'm worried this is a little too late. The TV & Prem money going up and the transfers of players going to dizzy heights is only going to wet FSG's appetite to stick around awhile longer! There’s no point them hanging on if there is the rumoured £1.2bn on offer. They don’t take anything from the club as far as we know so it’ll just be a self serving business on their books. They always wanted us to make s profit in the mid to long term and if they don’t sell now, the value of the club will no doubt increase beyond anyone’s means.
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The yanks come from a different culture, they're only interested in anything that can be commercialised and exploited for profit, hence the tendency to see profit and enjoyment/entertainment as being synonymous. They have little love or regard for tradition, history or sport for it's own sake. The company I used to work for got taken over by an American company and they ran us into the ground. All they cared about was the bottom left me so it’s not just sports club they have a total disregard for.
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The yanks come from a different culture, they're only interested in anything that can be commercialised and exploited for profit, hence the tendency to see profit and enjoyment/entertainment as being synonymous. They have little love or regard for tradition, history or sport for it's own sake. The company I used to work for got taken over by an American company and they ran us into the ground. All they cared about was the bottom left me so it’s not just sports club they have a total disregard for. Similar happened to me at my last company, they bought us for the 'brands' and then got rid off all the UK staff as 'Synergies' and ran it out the states, they have pretty tight labour laws on jobs over there, so as long as it doesn't affect American jobs, nobody gives a stuff, especially with Trump in power rubber stamping it all.
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FSG are going to be looking at the mooted 1.2 bill offer thinking they can get more now with the inflated transfer fees and more tv & prem money each season! They'll be looking at the Coutinho fee now on old terms of him being 1/10 of the club total worth. Then they'll be thinking the likes of Mane, Salah, Firmino and the likes of Ox and Keita when he comes can improve to at least double the outlay! They've not seen this much positivity towards potential profit from sales of players like they have over the last summer transfer window in their 7 years. I can see them hanging around a few years longer to see if the gravy boat stops flowing.
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FSG aren't football/Liverpool fans, I suspect they saw a good deal to buy us cheap as a global brand which is not being ran well, so they improve the stadium (Done), improve sponsorship/merchandising (Done), get a top manager (Done,)get us back in the CL (Done) and then sell us to make a huge profit.
I still think there is more to this, I doubt FSG are planning to be at Liverpool in 10 years, FSG are also a group of people, it's not just Henry, so there will be internal pressures to sell if a bid like that comes in. Agree. This also matched their moneyball philosophy. However, they will only sell if they can see a deal that is good enough. The club is now valued about 1B (arguably over 1B). It is 3 times the value when they bought a few years ago. This is a huge return but they definitely see the trend of going up of football club value. There are lots of investers want to join in middle east/China/Russia etc. I think they expect the trend for appreciating value will continue and unless someone putting a ridiculas offer to the table, they wont sell us.
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The yanks come from a different culture, they're only interested in anything that can be commercialised and exploited for profit, hence the tendency to see profit and enjoyment/entertainment as being synonymous. They have little love or regard for tradition, history or sport for it's own sake. I think they do have but for their own football, baseball etc. That said, they learned about capitalism from the British but went beyond.
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FSG aren't football/Liverpool fans, I suspect they saw a good deal to buy us cheap as a global brand which is not being ran well, so they improve the stadium (Done), improve sponsorship/merchandising (Done), get a top manager (Done,)get us back in the CL (Done) and then sell us to make a huge profit.
I still think there is more to this, I doubt FSG are planning to be at Liverpool in 10 years, FSG are also a group of people, it's not just Henry, so there will be internal pressures to sell if a bid like that comes in. Agree. This also matched their moneyball philosophy. However, they will only sell if they can see a deal that is good enough. The club is now valued about 1B (arguably over 1B). It is 3 times the value when they bought a few years ago. This is a huge return but they definitely see the trend of going up of football club value. There are lots of investers want to join in middle east/China/Russia etc. I think they expect the trend for appreciating value will continue and unless someone putting a ridiculas offer to the table, they wont sell us. They could if there was some kind of pressure like insulting them when they come to Anfield
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FSG aren't football/Liverpool fans, I suspect they saw a good deal to buy us cheap as a global brand which is not being ran well, so they improve the stadium (Done), improve sponsorship/merchandising (Done), get a top manager (Done,)get us back in the CL (Done) and then sell us to make a huge profit.
I still think there is more to this, I doubt FSG are planning to be at Liverpool in 10 years, FSG are also a group of people, it's not just Henry, so there will be internal pressures to sell if a bid like that comes in. Agree. This also matched their moneyball philosophy. However, they will only sell if they can see a deal that is good enough. The club is now valued about 1B (arguably over 1B). It is 3 times the value when they bought a few years ago. This is a huge return but they definitely see the trend of going up of football club value. There are lots of investers want to join in middle east/China/Russia etc. I think they expect the trend for appreciating value will continue and unless someone putting a ridiculas offer to the table, they wont sell us. Yes, but every club has a ceiling price, it's, so it's a gamble if they have an offer on the table for 3-4 times the buy price, if you turn it down, there are no guarantee's there will be future offers, FSG have investors to answer to also, its a game of poker with a very big pot ! There are lots of investors in Middle East & Russia, but not many with a spare £2+billion to buy Liverpool and invest in us.
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FSG aren't football/Liverpool fans, I suspect they saw a good deal to buy us cheap as a global brand which is not being ran well, so they improve the stadium (Done), improve sponsorship/merchandising (Done), get a top manager (Done,)get us back in the CL (Done) and then sell us to make a huge profit.
I still think there is more to this, I doubt FSG are planning to be at Liverpool in 10 years, FSG are also a group of people, it's not just Henry, so there will be internal pressures to sell if a bid like that comes in. Agree. This also matched their moneyball philosophy. However, they will only sell if they can see a deal that is good enough. The club is now valued about 1B (arguably over 1B). It is 3 times the value when they bought a few years ago. This is a huge return but they definitely see the trend of going up of football club value. There are lots of investers want to join in middle east/China/Russia etc. I think they expect the trend for appreciating value will continue and unless someone putting a ridiculas offer to the table, they wont sell us. They could if there was some kind of pressure like insulting them when they come to Anfield They never come to Anfield !!! we're better insulting them at a Red Sox game, as has been done, at least they take notice there !!! I am sure they are aware overall the fans aren't happy, there has been a ground swell of feeling from the fans that they are worried we are being left behind by the likes of Tottenham/Arsenal (Man Utd/City are well ahead). Also, there other FSG franchises like Red Sox have always been anti Liverpool as they see us paying big wages and big transfer fee's, so a drain on their club and resources that could be spent on Red Sox, like we see the same with Red Sox using money that could be spent on Liverpool, so when they see a huge £1.2 Billion bid, i'm sure they are saying take the money and spend it on the Red Sox. I think individual insults won't help, FSG will say it's the occasional nutter etc, we need a ground swell of anti FSG feeling from the majority of fans, like we had for Hicks & Gillet, FSG are very media/brand savy, so they won't want anything to affect that/their global sponsors.
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