KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Jamie Carragher: Liverpool won't win the title

That's a lot of hopes as we will need the new owner to be ready to let go 1.5 Billion. Nobody gas done that ever, not even Abramovich and the Sheik Mansoor. I am not too hopeful as there were few bidders at 300m. Only hope for me is that FSG are forced to sell at 500m.

Exactly vish. Who out there has that kind of money to throw away? This is why I'm not confident that if we're sold we'll be any better off. If anything I think we could end up with owners who have massive loans they'll need to pay off.

Same here.

If you guys are right and there is no one out there with the capital look at it from the point of view of john Henry all this has been a waste of time and he is left with a worthless asset in a sport he has no interest in. Not exactly a great situation for LFC. Also everyone is assuming a buyer is an individual some clubs have been bought by countries or consortiums involving countries recently in the crazy world of premiership football.

Well they don't seem to be lining up around the block do they? I'd also suggest that if there was someone out there they'd have shown their hand by now.

I'm not entirely sure what country might be interested and a consortium isn't likely to just pump money into us without a return. We'd also be lucky if consortium is full of football fans who all want the same thing for LFC.

And if FSG can't sell, I'm not sure that it will be seen as a waste of time as they have a business that can run itself with little help from them if any.

Well if the FSG plan is to keep LFC and make revenue profits that's likely to be at the expense of the fans and the team as cutting costs and raising sales are the drivers even more so than now. Whichever way you look at it, it's not very inspiring doesn't bother me I have long since given up

I don't think their plan is to keep us but it might happen as there doesn't seem to be an abundance of people/consortiums/countries that are queuing up to buy us. They make revenue and profit now but as far as I know they don't take anything out.

And if you've long since given up, why bother keep going on about it on here? I suggest you do care as we all do or you wouldn't bother would you?

I think the objective with FSG is to make a capital profit buy for x and sell for y after a period of time I think that's still the plan no other option makes sense. This is why they don't take dividends. Using LFC to make dividends and hence make lots of revenue profits is bonkers firstly it's not a profitable industry despite the billions of revenue (unless you are a player or agent) second there is no way the fans would wear that imagine the club doubling profits and spending nothing on players ? As for myself I am a Liverpool fan always will be but my enthusiasm is a fraction of what it was I watched Liverpool vs man united on sky rather than get up early to go to the game at one time that would have been unthinkable. What I meant was I have given up on hoping for success the time when we redeveloped one stand at anfield rather than build a new stadium was the signal ambitions were to be low. I am sure Vish will come on and tell us we can't afford a new stadium and maybe he is right but that's the problem and as for the money we saved by the new stand option I am still waiting to see all the money on top class players we were going to spend the money on. Whichever way you look at it Liverpool football club is a big club but without big club backing and this is as good as it gets with the odd success thrown in. Incidently it's 2012 since the club won anything and even then it was the league cup on penalities how times change

Yup, we're doomed. Too expensive to be bought and too cr@p to win anything.

We need to @rse to fall out of the game as a whole to put clubs on an even keel but I can't see that happening anytime soon.

Let's be honest, yanks are phluckin vultures. They come over here, spouting all of there enthusiastic sh1te knowing full well that if success happens, it will be by luck and not by design.

I know the Glaziers have backed Maureen but apart from Man U, is there any other club that Yank tw@ts have got involved in that have won anything?

Stanley, you mention a new stadium and I agree that would have made a statement of intent but I can't help wondering if it is a coincidence how Arsenals winning form ended abruptly when they had a new stadium built and cash was not readily injected into the team.

At the end of Klopps first season I had hope and was looking forwards to start of last season and all was good until Karius was put between the sticks and upset the rhythm and we've never been the same team since.

I'm an ardent fan but these owners have put us in a mediocre rut and I don't see anyway of getting out.

#FSGOUT not sure, #FSGSPENDSUMCASH would be the better option.

Maybe we just need to be patient. Klopp still believes. When it does all click into place it will be more rewarding than the easy option of buying the league.