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If that was the case why buy Ox?

Look, I know you're just trying to get someone to bite with the Keegan and newcastle comments. You've said yourself that it runs deeper than just buying defenders which is right but it's also deeper than just sacking Klopp.

Lovren is a bad defender as is Klavan. I've said before that the system we play will always mean we'll let in goals and also explained how better defenders will help not solve the problem.

But if we can reduce the amount of goals we let in by just half it'll have a huge impact on where we may end up. That is what better defenders will give you.

I'd also say that Klopp does have it in him to a certain extent as he had a good defence at Dortmund. The difference there is that he had good ones.

I’m struggling to understand that one myself too. Was it to appease the fans? Also we massively overpaid for him, so why? Is it possible, as Sixties often says, Klopp doesn’t see Hendo being able to play the season out, due to his heel problem? Very strange signings otherwise, given the needs elsewhere in the side.

Could be.

I don't know why fans would be appeased by buying someone we don't really need at a record fee

I'm guessing Klopp must see something in Ox that will improve our team and is good cover as he can play a few positions, with how Klopp plays the MF they work very hard, so we need allot of cover and quality to come in, he has ability and is still quite young with allot of experience, I agree we paid over the top for him, but who can judge a player price now, I expected we'd pay £20 million for him going into his last season.

At the end of the day, Chelsea wanted him, Arsenal wanted to pay him more, but he wanted to join us. He's not had a good start, but we're struggling atm, so I am happy to give him more time to show what he can do.

Too many knee jerk reactions here atm.

Our weakest area last season was defence and strongest attack, we spent 75m on attack and 8m in defence and the result is as most expected, crap. How is that knee jerk according to you?

I have argued in my posts on here that Klopp should buy more defenders and focusing on VvD was foolish and we should have bought an alternative when it was obvious we wouldn't sing VvD, so you'll get no argument from me on us strengthening defense.

People asked why we bought Ox, so I gave the reasons as I saw them, it wasn't a mistake buying him IMO, he strengthens MF squad, which needed more depth, especially with Lucas going and Henderson fitness an unknown, not buying CB(s) was a mistake, we should have bought Ox and a CB (I think we need 2 actually), buying Ox had nothing to do with not buy a CB as we had the money as we bid for VvD, we have spent £12 million defenders in 2 years, you get what you pay for, Klavan was a £4million CB and looks it, you can't blame him for that, we was meant to be 4th choice and play a few games a season the cups to rest the first 3 choices.

As for the knee jerk, there have been allot of posts slagging Ox off after he played the other night, he didbn't play well, like most of the team, he's a new player who should be given time, he's joined a struggling team, so I think some people (not meaning you) have going OTT on it abit.

So are you trying to tell me that the critics of our current team's defensive woes did not level exactly the same sort of comments about Kevin Keegan's Newcastle team, if you say it's not the case maybe you were not old enough to remember his team and what was said about them...I don't know...
To be honest although I don't rate Klopp as a manager I have to admit this all out attack and woeful defending is very enjoyable to watch even though we will never win anything with him, I really don't mind going to home games as I know it will be a good watch if nothing else. The main gripe I have with Klopp is that we will never win anything with him because of his stance on playing weak teams in domestic cups, I think if he did field his full team in every cup game we would win one.

I think I was drunk for most of that time so don't remember me ch about it I'm afraid.