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Re: Klopp: In or Out?
Darcus #578322 14/09/17 02:56 PM
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I still think he needs one more season. If he doesn't sort it out it's time to consider an alternative. We praise Klopp's ability to get the best out of players and get the best out of our attack, but football is not just about the attack. I doubt Klopp's ability to set up a defence. Let's look at some examples of mistakes he's made.

1) Not bolstering our defence (it's bare thin)
2) being stubborn when it comes to signings
3) buying players like Robertson at the left-back position, only for him to sit on the bench behind Moreno, the latter of which has been abysmal over the last 16 months.

We are right back where we started 12 months ago. Scoring goals, but also conceding a lot of goals.
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
Shaggydog #578324 14/09/17 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Jaysus lads, a wee bit of patience is what we need now.

Kieta will be a huge player for us and if Klopp gets VVD we will also improve significantly at the back. If we don't get VVD then I assume he will buy someone else because Lovren cannot continue.

I know it's frustrating but he is taking us in the right direction, all be it two steps forward, one step back at times.


Have to agree Shaga.
Far too easy to be impatient.
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
wilkij1975 #578325 14/09/17 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975


Yeah I'm angry as he hasn't done his job in my eyes. How can you not strengthen our defence?

We better get someone in January. It's not the time to do the bulk of your business but we have to get someone.


This stubbornness is not new but we can't wait for Jan. I think we need to play with a true DM who stays just in front of the CB like Matic and Kante. I am not sure who can play that role in the team, is he thinking of making the Ox become that kind of a player as I don't know why he was bought. If he wanted a number 10 he has Coutinho, Lallana and Firmino, what's the plan with the Ox who cost at least 35m?
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
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Originally Posted By Growler
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Jaysus lads, a wee bit of patience is what we need now.

Kieta will be a huge player for us and if Klopp gets VVD we will also improve significantly at the back. If we don't get VVD then I assume he will buy someone else because Lovren cannot continue.

I know it's frustrating but he is taking us in the right direction, all be it two steps forward, one step back at times.


Have to agree Shaga.
Far too easy to be impatient.




Patience, I think we've been patient for long enough. We've won jack [oops] winning the Carling up and have done very little to move forwards. It must be disappointing when you have to wait till next year to get a player good enough to improve an average midfield which should have been sorted out this summer.
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
Darcus #578329 14/09/17 03:08 PM
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So then.
We sack Klopp lad, and then what?

Still got the same miserable squad of journey men and leeches, with owners that could give a flying herd of turds....apart from the $$$$$'s of course.
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
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Originally Posted By Growler
So then.
We sack Klopp lad, and then what?

Still got the same miserable squad of journey men and leeches, with owners that could give a flying herd of turds....apart from the $$$$$'s of course.


No, we don't sack Klopp, that would be silly. He deserves 1 or 2 seasons. I'm saying if the same [oops] continues for the next year or so, you can't say you would be happy nor can you tell people to be patient. I want to know why the [oops] are we not buying good players, I want to know why the [oops] are we happy with a squad of Journey men? Klopp shouldn't get the sack, but surely we can criticize him ?
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
Darcus #578332 14/09/17 03:16 PM
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It's not about patience and I don't want him sacked. But he deserves this criticism. There's a massive problem with the team, that being the defence and he's done nothing to rectify it. That just smacks of incompetence however you look at it.
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
wilkij1975 #578341 14/09/17 03:32 PM
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Its down to Klopp to sort out the the defense problem asap but that ship has sailed i think, why do we have to wait for Jan,then wait until summer,then wait until jan? or buy players to sit unused on the bench ?
We have been doing this for years now and still there are positions that need sorting.
Its unrealistic to expect wins by simply scoring bags full of goals and hoping we don't concede crazy
Im sick and tired of waiting my patience has been worn down and the worst thing is we wait so long for one measly player to plug a gap only for another to open up IE phil will want to go followed swiftly by the likes of Mane,and so it goes on and on and on..... mad
I wouldn't like to see Klopp sacked but he will be if he doesn't hurry up and address the problems, his head will be on the block without doubt and he will deserve the criticism .

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Re: Klopp: In or Out?
LiverbirdLain #578352 14/09/17 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By LiverbirdLain
Its down to Klopp to sort out the the defense problem asap but that ship has sailed i think, why do we have to wait for Jan,then wait until summer,then wait until jan? or buy players to sit unused on the bench ?
We have been doing this for years now and still there are positions that need sorting.
Its unrealistic to expect wins by simply scoring bags full of goals and hoping we don't concede crazy
Im sick and tired of waiting my patience has been worn down and the worst thing is we wait so long for one measly player to plug a gap only for another to open up IE phil will want to go followed swiftly by the likes of Mane,and so it goes on and on and on..... mad
I wouldn't like to see Klopp sacked but he will be if he doesn't hurry up and address the problems, his head will be on the block without doubt and he will deserve the criticism .


I don't know how he will sort out this problem with the players we have
Re: Klopp: In or Out?
LiverbirdLain #578353 14/09/17 04:29 PM
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I don't think we should get rid of Klopp right now but there are huge question marks for me there have been improvements in forward midfield but that s about it. The Liverpool job sets high standards and so far he is not meeting them. As for the patience thing that seems to be out of favour in the game managers are changed more regularly now. I think he should be given more time but this time is not unlimited the defence has to be sorted this season next season too late.

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