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Originally Posted By Derek
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They've said they'd rather see him rot in the stands than leave (not sure if that was just to us or in general). If that's the case it's pretty stupid of Southampton but somewhat understandable.

And you're right. There should be an alternative in case the deal didn't come off. If we go into next season with Lovren as one of our starting CB's then Klopp has fukked up big time.


They are talking [oops]. No way will that happen. I think we are waiting for Chelsea to bid for him and hoping he turns them down so they are forced to let us bid



Agree, there's no way any club will let a potential 60m player sit out a season.

The whole 'rot in stands' thing was supposedly said by a 'club insider'. That could mean the tea lady.


SO many tea ladies appear to get inside info out don't they?
Wonder if LFC have any vacancies for tea gentlemen? whistle

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Maybe. But it might p1ss you off even more if you got the inside scoop.

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Originally Posted By Derek
Originally Posted By paul66
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
They've said they'd rather see him rot in the stands than leave (not sure if that was just to us or in general). If that's the case it's pretty stupid of Southampton but somewhat understandable.

And you're right. There should be an alternative in case the deal didn't come off. If we go into next season with Lovren as one of our starting CB's then Klopp has fukked up big time.


They are talking [oops]. No way will that happen. I think we are waiting for Chelsea to bid for him and hoping he turns them down so they are forced to let us bid



Agree, there's no way any club will let a potential 60m player sit out a season.

The whole 'rot in stands' thing was supposedly said by a 'club insider'. That could mean the tea lady.


Didn't Leicester do that in Jan? Anyway, I suppose they will let him rot until the end of the transfer window, even the player would wish to start training if the window is closed, especially in a WC year

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Personally, I think there's more to this than meets the eye behind the scenes as always.

Southampton are in a Catch 22 where they need to find a solid replacement before letting VVD go. Their defence coped reasonably without VVD for a good few months but the feeling is that as their squad stands without him they are likely to start haemorrhaging goals long-term, as is.

Their squad is too large to buy players without letting one go, due to the amount of players they can register and the fact that no fee has been agreed. Of the players that they could / would sell there is debatably only VVD and Florin Gardos in the conversation. This is why they haven't been buying players given their already quite bloated squad... Copious detail here for anyone interested - http://redsloscf.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/how-i-became-southampton-fc-fan.html?m=1

And if they sell him for £60-70m plus before buying, then all clubs will know that they have a [oops] load to spend and this will inflate the prices they can buy at. Selling to us will only be accepted by their fans if there is a substantial premium to be paid (£5m-20m who knows), making this Catch 22 problem even more acute.

Therefore, if they are going to sell him to us - or to anyone at all - it would make sense to line up a replacement they can buy beforehand and immediately before selling to us.

So potentially the two deals could be lined up in parallel and I wouldn't be surprised if this went right to the wire and was announced in the last 24-48 hours of the window.

Alternatively it might not happen at all. But if it will, this is the only way I can see it playing out for all parties.


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Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
Personally, I think there's more to this than meets the eye behind the scenes as always.

Southampton are in a Catch 22 where they need to find a solid replacement before letting VVD go. Their defence coped reasonably without VVD for a good few months but the feeling is that as their squad stands without him they are likely to start haemorrhaging goals long-term, as is.

Their squad is too large to buy players without letting one go, due to the amount of players they can register and the fact that no fee has been agreed. Of the players that they could / would sell there is debatably only VVD and Florin Gardos in the conversation. This is why they haven't been buying players given their already quite bloated squad... Copious detail here for anyone interested - http://redsloscf.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/how-i-became-southampton-fc-fan.html?m=1

And if they sell him for £60-70m plus before buying, then all clubs will know that they have a [oops] load to spend and this will inflate the prices they can buy at. Selling to us will only be accepted by their fans if there is a substantial premium to be paid (£5m-20m who knows), making this Catch 22 problem even more acute.

Therefore, if they are going to sell him to us - or to anyone at all - it would make sense to line up a replacement they can buy beforehand and immediately before selling to us.

So potentially the two deals could be lined up in parallel and I wouldn't be surprised if this went right to the wire and was announced in the last 24-48 hours of the window.

Alternatively it might not happen at all. But if it will, this is the only way I can see it playing out for all parties.


What's the problem in paying premiums when you have received premiums yourself. Do you think the club selling a replacement for VvD would ask similar fees? They could even negotiate Sakho in the deal, a player they wanted to sign 6 months back.

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What we should do to Soton is:

1. See off any other bidder.

2. Let them get their replacement signed.

3. Give them the middle finger at let them have both VvD and the replacement.

That should teach them to always let us get what we want without any fuss! laugh

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or f*ck them further, buy VVD find out who their replacement for him is and sneak in and get him too!!! That'll teach them for biting that hands that have fed them for the last god knows how many years!

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We should just sign the replacement and cut out the middle man

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
We should just sign the replacement and cut out the middle man


I don't understand what we are doing there, I think we should at least talk to them to see if a deal is possible or buy someone else. Klopp is really playing with fire regarding our CB position.

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Maybe we are doing that.

Just because we don't hear anything doesn't mean something isn't happening.

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