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The fact is you cannot always get the player you want, we should have alternatives, Klopp has acknowledged he's need a CB by being so firm on VvD, to leave us weaker by not getting VvD is poor management.

We should make a last take it or leave it bid to Southampton with our maximum bid (I agree £60million seems about right), make it very clear there will be no further bids, if they do not accept that, we need to move on to other targets, the fact remains we desperately need another quality CB, so if we have £60million in our pocket, I am sure we can get a good one, certainly someone better than our current third choice CB Klavan.

Who's negotiating this transfer?

Leipzig refused to sell Keita, that's not FSG's fault.
Southampton have so far refused to negotiate on Van Dijk, if he ends up at City or Chelsea despite having a preference for us then by all means blame the owners, transfer committee, manager or whoever.

If we refuse to sell Coutinho to Barca, which I'm hoping will be the case, does that mean the Barcelona board have failed to deliver as well?

The clubs that these players play for do have the right to reject transfer bids you know. Just because we want the player doesn't mean they have to sell.

Has he been told these deals are completely dead and to move on by the powers tbat be ? I must have missed that snippet of info if that's the case.

the point is that the club should have good links and relationships with other clubs. They should quickly establish whether a player is not available or whether he is available at the right price. This should be done behind the scenes and the club should get the correct signals from the other party irrespective of what that party might be saying in public. Once they know the true position, the club can either move on to the next best option or make the right offer to land the player. FSG seem to have just allowed the VVD situation to happen and go on in such a way that it's not good for any of the parties involved.

Why bother offering £60m you know it'll get knocked back, seriously what's the fear in offering £80m , extra 20mill for peice of mind? Why not .if theirs Hard-headedness to get VvD then this attitude must run through the transfer negotiations, £60m is tame. £80m upfront reflects such hard-headedness,

VvD shirt sales will cover the extra £

How am I supposed to know that?

What you are missing is that the likes of Southampton and RB Leipzig have no need to sell their star players, the money in the Premiership is beyond obscene now meaning mid-table clubs can now sign £30million players and no longer need to sell to balance the books. As for Leipzig they are just minted so again, no need to sell.

We've already moved on from Keita from what I can tell, and it makes sense especially with a release clause coming into effect next Summer. As for Van Dijk, the club royally screwed up earlier in the window, hence the apology, if he ends up going elsewhere then we definitely have cause to moan. However if Southampton flatly refuse to sell to anyone, despite the player wanting to leave, what exactly are we supposed to do?

Van Dijk shirt sales? Really? Kids want exciting players on the backs on their shirts, a Coutinho or Mane will be the most popular I'm sure. A player like Neymar has huge commercial value but to say Van Dijk shirt sales would earn us an extra £20million, surely you aren't being serious?

Put it this way, I'd pay £150 quid to see him join us, we should start a campaign and raise the extra £20m funds

No way,they'd pocket the cash and buy Michael Dawson.