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He's looked better than anything we've had in the back 4 for a long time,looks like we've ballsed it up anyway,so who are all these comparable defenders out there that you keep banging on about that we can purchase for 50 quid then Vish?


Can you please tell me what VVD had done so far to be priced by far the most expensive defender ever?

well RfC, I've seen reports that said he's widely regarded as the best defender in the PL. That would also explain why other top clubs were in for him. Who would you recommend for that position instead, who'd be as good or better?


If I am looking to buy a defender I would rather go to look for one in Italy (De Vrij for one) and nobody even knows how he will perform after coming back from a serious injury. We had consistently have bad experiences with such cases such as Aquilani, Caroll, Benteke the few I remember.


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Vish ..
Do you even do any research before you comment here ??
•keep asking what VvD has done- F***king watch him yourself , look at his goals for Celtic, goals for Southampton , go on "the ugly inside" ( YouTube So'ton fan channel) were they have end of season ratings of all players. Look up what artices people wrote about him.

• your option De vrij had an ACL knee injury previously . So your choice is an absolute garbage defender who'd we be trying offload next season Your a fool


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Im growing tired of trying to validate why VvD is our main target , if you trust klopp's choices then stop playing down Klopp's top target like it doesn't make a difference who we get. Klopp wants VvD , if that matters for anyone they will understand that significance , and it SHOULD matter to FSG too and their suits, but it seems otherwise - hence our frustrations . Frustration grows with each passing day their f****g about on twitter on LFC TV instead on getting business done.


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Vish is one of the most logical posters on here but there's no room for logic when it comes to premiership transfer fees.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Im growing tired of trying to validate why VvD is our main target , if you trust klopp's choices then stop playing down Klopp's top target like it doesn't make a difference who we get. Klopp wants VvD , if that matters for anyone they will understand that significance , and it SHOULD matter to FSG too and their suits, but it seems otherwise - hence our frustrations . Frustration grows with each passing day their f****g about on twitter on LFC TV instead on getting business done.



Everyone knows he's our main target. But when Southampton say they won't sell him and would reject £70mil. And the manager says he wants him to stay.
And he was stupid enough to sign a SIX YEAR DEAL in January.

There isn't anything we can do. It really is an unrealistic signing at the minute

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Is VvD worth 70million? No
Is Pogba worth £100 million ? No
Is David Luiz worth £40 million No
Is Sterling worth £50 million ? No
Is Stones worth £50million ? No
Is Lukaku worth £90 million ? No

If FSG want to do a Leicester , they should go buy a championship club then .

EPL gave us this season £148.4 million :

http://www.businessinsider.com/total-pri...son-2017-5?IR=T


£39 million - salah
£80-million VvD
£25 million - Ox-Chamberlain
£10 million- young left back
= £ 153 million

A NET SPEND OF "£5million !!! COMING OUT OF FSG POCKET.

Sell:
Sakho ~ £20 million
Markovic ~ £10 million
Moreno ~ £ 10million
= net spend of +£35 million


We still make profit.
frustrated fans are being reasonable.

klopp's choice to spend his transfers on who and for as much as he wants, the board should keep quite instead of trying to discourage him .
so you think klopp's 2nd choice is just as good as klopp's 1st choice??? this isn't rocket science

The frustrations isn't about over spending , it's about they are just stupid at delegating it, spreading out the transfer money too thin and on "potential" . it's got nothing to do with spending more , just spending more on quality and less quantity . . your reasoning is idiotic. We have 148££ mill to spend, get out of klopp's way and let him use it how he wants.

We should be arguing about "if he's worth it" with him wearing an LFC shirt and signed , instead or argueing about FSG not giving Klopp his top target. Klopp has done everything the opportunity , Infact the reason EPL give so much money to us is because of TV-rights from fans like you and me paying monthly to watch EPL, so they are not spending our money!!!


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Im growing tired of trying to validate why VvD is our main target , if you trust klopp's choices then stop playing down Klopp's top target like it doesn't make a difference who we get. Klopp wants VvD , if that matters for anyone they will understand that significance , and it SHOULD matter to FSG too and their suits, but it seems otherwise - hence our frustrations . Frustration grows with each passing day their f****g about on twitter on LFC TV instead on getting business done.



Everyone knows he's our main target. But when Southampton say they won't sell him and would reject £70mil. And the manager says he wants him to stay.
And he was stupid enough to sign a SIX YEAR DEAL in January.

There isn't anything we can do. It really is an unrealistic signing at the minute


your right, it is atleast for us fans but for the actual board to say that to Klopp is so bad, they should be helping Klopp fight to get him, Klopp demands LFC to fight, expects fans to fight for a result at Anfield, expects the board to fight for success too, this VvD deal is significant even just giving it a go is important, a real go not the petty attempt we made .

It's unrealistic to beat Dortmund at Anfield 3-1 Down, unrealistic 3-0 down to Ac Milan , LFC is built to fight , we must fight and not give up . Their attitude is draining our souls as fans , Klopp brings life but FSG are draining it just as fast

Part of the frustration is that only FSG can make klopp's top target who chose us an unrealistic signing, FSG made him unrealistic , self -sabotage to stop Klopp spending .


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Sorry for calling you idiotic and all that, I'm sorry it's not fair to say that to people , Infact I'm idiotic for thinking VvD will be win us the league or champions league . , but that's okay I'm just obsessed that he is a pivotal signing for us given how things happened, even more significant now , so yes I believe with VvD LFC will win the league or champions league next season . just my silly opinion

This whole topic is just a continuous anger-filled rampage I have on FSG , when I think of FSG's handling throughout the years , I feel such a frustration that I sometimes lose sight of the fact that as fans above all we should as one for the club and civil and respectful in our diverse opinions


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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
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Sorry for calling you idiotic and all that, I'm sorry it's not fair to say that to people , Infact I'm idiotic for thinking VvD will be win us the league or champions league . , but that's okay I'm just obsessed that he is a pivotal signing for us given how things happened, even more significant now , so yes I believe with VvD LFC will win the league or champions league next season . just my silly opinion

This whole topic is just a continuous anger-filled rampage I have on FSG , when I think of FSG's handling throughout the years , I feel such a frustration that I sometimes lose sight of the fact that as fans above all we should as one for the club and civil and respectful in our diverse opinions


I agree with that.

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I am amazed that we just read and hear feedback and gossip about which players the club is interested in signing.

Where is Jurgen Klopp?

Does he have any opinion at all about which players he is interested in signing? Is he actually involved and talking to player candidates?

And why so we seem to bend over and "take it" from players and agents instead of showing who is the boss?

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Originally Posted By chesterville
I am amazed that we just read and hear feedback and gossip about which players the club is interested in signing.

Where is Jurgen Klopp?

Does he have any opinion at all about which players he is interested in signing? Is he actually involved and talking to player candidates?

And why so we seem to bend over and "take it" from players and agents instead of showing who is the boss?


Where is Jurgen Klopp? I’d say he’s blinded by the mirrors and obscured by the smoke...If he doesnt actually resign, he’ll probably manage to scramble out shortly, spluttering and choking and say; 'we tried, but it wasn’t to be, this time, but I’m happy with what I have, and we’re going to fight for everything. I’m delighted with the support from owners and I’m very happy with their efforts in this window’!! Isn’t it just great to be a Liverpool fan these days all the same?

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