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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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Sorry for calling you idiotic and all that, I'm sorry it's not fair to say that to people , Infact I'm idiotic for thinking VvD will be win us the league or champions league . , but that's okay I'm just obsessed that he is a pivotal signing for us given how things happened, even more significant now , so yes I believe with VvD LFC will win the league or champions league next season . just my silly opinion

This whole topic is just a continuous anger-filled rampage I have on FSG , when I think of FSG's handling throughout the years , I feel such a frustration that I sometimes lose sight of the fact that as fans above all we should as one for the club and civil and respectful in our diverse opinions


I agree with that.


My reasoning ?
(a) LFC fans motivated by transfer "victory" by signing VvD gives us momentum early season

(b) his actual quality and leadership will be extremely significant against "smaller" clubs to dominate the ball and close out tight games during Nov-Jan fixtures

(c) the positive vibes within LFC dressing room of having a leader with quality: players are aware of transfer negotiations and also would feel down if we miss out on top targets as the signing will boost them

(d) VvD to form good partnership with salah/mane with his cross field pass to play on counter attack

(E) despite VvD ability , the opposition players will be affected psychologically by a team that got their top target , overspending worksin our favour here , as psychologically we are no different to man city or Chelsea teams who have success recently - this can give us a psychological edge in games

We can always get player who does a solid job for cheaper
But it'll will always be the second choice and won't have that motivational boost as VvD

So yes VvD will win us the league !!!
If that makes me crazy then so be it!!!


When did you find out he was so great, I don't recall you mentioning it until the recent rumours? The guy has been off for half a season and probably had one good year in the EPL. If you were talking about Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez, I would have understood but VVD?

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
LFCDownUnder, are you Van Dijk's love child by any chance? Because you seem absolutely obsessed with the guy.


I know plenty other supporters who are obsessed with him as well. I've seen enough off him to know that he would be an amazing signing for us. He is a brilliant player.

In an absolutely different league to Lovern and better than Matip as well

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
LFCDownUnder, are you Van Dijk's love child by any chance? Because you seem absolutely obsessed with the guy.


Yes I am obsessed because I truly believe signing him will win us the league or champions league next season


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Originally Posted By paul66
Originally Posted By Chris2402
LFCDownUnder, are you Van Dijk's love child by any chance? Because you seem absolutely obsessed with the guy.


I know plenty other supporters who are obsessed with him as well. I've seen enough off him to know that he would be an amazing signing for us. He is a brilliant player.

In an absolutely different league to Lovern and better than Matip as well


So why are Real Madrid or Barcelona not after him then, they are always after the best world class players? In fact they both need a good CB.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
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Sorry for calling you idiotic and all that, I'm sorry it's not fair to say that to people , Infact I'm idiotic for thinking VvD will be win us the league or champions league . , but that's okay I'm just obsessed that he is a pivotal signing for us given how things happened, even more significant now , so yes I believe with VvD LFC will win the league or champions league next season . just my silly opinion


This whole topic is just a continuous anger-filled rampage I have on FSG , when I think of FSG's handling throughout the years , I feel such a frustration that I sometimes lose sight of the fact that as fans above all we should as one for the club and civil and respectful in our diverse opinions


I agree with that.


My reasoning ?
(a) LFC fans motivated by transfer "victory" by signing VvD gives us momentum early season

(b) his actual quality and leadership will be extremely significant against "smaller" clubs to dominate the ball and close out tight games during Nov-Jan fixtures

(c) the positive vibes within LFC dressing room of having a leader with quality: players are aware of transfer negotiations and also would feel down if we miss out on top targets as the signing will boost them

(d) VvD to form good partnership with salah/mane with his cross field pass to play on counter attack

(E) despite VvD ability , the opposition players will be affected psychologically by a team that got their top target , overspending worksin our favour here , as psychologically we are no different to man city or Chelsea teams who have success recently - this can give us a psychological edge in games

We can always get player who does a solid job for cheaper
But it'll will always be the second choice and won't have that motivational boost as VvD

So yes VvD will win us the league !!!
If that makes me crazy then so be it!!!


When did you find out he was so great, I don't recall you mentioning it until the recent rumours? The guy has been off for half a season and probably had one good year in the EPL. If you were talking about Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez, I would have understood but VVD?



I think the fact that you are asking this question shows that you are just not able to comprehend my point of view, and so no matter how much ill write , until you look past your ego , you'll never understand, I'll save us both the time.


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Ok thank you. Looks like Klopp also is not that interested to win the league else he would have just bought him at 70m

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By Chris2402
LFCDownUnder, are you Van Dijk's love child by any chance? Because you seem absolutely obsessed with the guy.


I know plenty other supporters who are obsessed with him as well. I've seen enough off him to know that he would be an amazing signing for us. He is a brilliant player.

In an absolutely different league to Lovern and better than Matip as well


So why are Real Madrid or Barcelona not after him then, they are always after the best world class players? In fact they both need a good CB.


This is always the worst argument.

Why aren't barca after him if he's good?

Same reason they didn't sign suarez or Mascherano first time round.

Same reason Madrid didn't sign Ronaldo from sporting or Bale from Southampton

Same reason we didn't buy Van Dijk from Groningen or Mane from Salzburg.

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By paul66
Originally Posted By Chris2402
LFCDownUnder, are you Van Dijk's love child by any chance? Because you seem absolutely obsessed with the guy.


I know plenty other supporters who are obsessed with him as well. I've seen enough off him to know that he would be an amazing signing for us. He is a brilliant player.

In an absolutely different league to Lovern and better than Matip as well


So why are Real Madrid or Barcelona not after him then, they are always after the best world class players? In fact they both need a good CB.


This is always the worst argument.

Why aren't barca after him if he's good?

Same reason they didn't sign suarez or Mascherano first time round.

Same reason Madrid didn't sign Ronaldo from sporting or Bale from Southampton

Same reason we didn't buy Van Dijk from Groningen or Mane from Salzburg.


You are right, this is why we bought Suarez for 23m and sold him to Barca for 80m and United bought Ronaldo for 15m and sold him for 90m or so. This is why we should not pay 70m for VVD because he is not considered the best CB in the world unlike the asking price.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions


Ok thank you. Looks like Klopp also is not that interested to win the league else he would have just bought him at 70m


Klopp isn't interested or FSG isn't interested?


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Vish

We are going in circles, let's stop focusing on out differences and start focusing on other things we agree on.

So we both love LFC, we both want to see LFC win the league and champions league , we both want to see that success with Klopp and FSG , we want to see a dynasty being created at LFC..

Ok do you agree with this?
I would spend 100million to get Suarez back, he's world class and can also win us the league . I've had this view throughout the season and I think he is the one truly world class player that would steam roll deep defending teams and win us the league and champions league

Do we agree that "if" any one player can win us the league , it would be Suarez??? If not who? And what fee would be reasonable ?


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