KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum The significance of VvD, and why I'm worried about FSG

The rumours are that he met with Klopp, which has been the problem, so maybe it was Klopp's fault?

Klopp didn't issue the craven, embarrassing and humiliating apology, FSG did, so they've accepted responsibility. Why should anyone try to place the blame on someone who hasn't accepted responsibility?

I think that was unlikely but even if it was the buck stops with FSG how many years have we been putting faith in them ?

They're the owners of the club so they will of course be releasing the statement. If you believe the reports (which I'm sure you must as you seem to believe everything you read), VVD met with Klopp, which seems to be the thing that got Southampton's goat. Did FSG know about this? Who knows? Maybe Klopp did this off his own back? Who knows?

If they don't regard themselves as responsible why take the responsibility and issue a craven, embarrassing and humiliating apology?

Of course they're responsible as owners of the club which I said in another post. But that doesn't mean they're to blame or that it's their direct fault.

We don't even know what Southampton were complaining about. We don't know if VVD met with Klopp or who set that up or sanctioned it. We don't know who leaked the details.

For those reasons I don't see how you can apportion blame to any one party as we know no facts. Obviously that won't stop you attacking FSG as you do at every little opportunity regardless of facts or who is to blame.

Klopp mentioned in his first press conference as LFC coach when asked about the transfer committee , he's in charge of the first and final say. He made it all sound so simple because with 99% of clubs transfer committees ARE simple,
But after constant oddball activity in the transfer window throughout FSG ownership , it's obvious that theirs something seriously wrong with the transfer commitee, not that there is a transfer commitee, but the people who run it are incompetent!!!!!!, it was the case with Brendan Rodgers and still is now, Klopp had no idea that such incompetence would lead to this disaster. This feels like we've lost a final or something , I'm seriously going to need counselling because this incompetence is beyond me. We have to fight to get VvD, the significance goes beyond the player, it's about LFC winning the battle before they step on the pitch !!!!!!

I hope Klopp can somehow pull a miracle here.

Well if they're responsible for the fu*k up! they're responsible and that's it, the buck stops with them. They were unable when they came in, and they're still unable. We've lost the opportunity to sign Klopp's first choice signing, despite his wanting to come here and had they managed the process right they'd have got him for around theoriginal 50m valuation which apparently they were prepared to pay...well at least some of them we're prepared to pay. Just how much incompetence are you prepared to tolerate from these mugs anyway?

Like I asked before that was well dodged with some anti FSG ball hang, how do you know Klopp didn't mess it up by having an unsanctioned meeting with the fella? What if it was some loose tongued employee who leaked the info that led to this?

FSG as owners will ultimately be held responsible but you don't know that they're to blame and there's a massive difference that your anti FSG agenda blinds you to.

I don't have an anti FSG agenda, I criticise them when they mess up, which unfortunately is all too often,and I have more than once praised them for their financial rectitude in terms of keeping the club on the financial straight and narrow. I also welcomed them when they first came here, but then I criticised them for subsequently adopting their moneyball policy, because I knew that while it suited their business plan, it would result in mediocrity on the pitch, and little to no trophy's. It's obvious that in your desperation to defend FSG regardless of how often they mess up, you have to try and impugn motives and some agenda or other to me. If your argument in defense of FSG could stand on it's own merits you wouldn't have to personalise things and attribute motives to me. Your position on this is totally bankrupt.