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Sweden has seen an increase of rape, more from a cultural standpoint than from a religious one as the sexual offenders are mostly north africian rather than middle eastern. They have also changed their sexual offences crime data collection, resulting in high amounts of rape crimes which might otherwise not have been classed as rape.
America's muslim population are much better integrated into society. Rather than planning the cull of muslims which is not going to happen you should try change things to make life better. Isn't 94% of the Uk police force white...that can't be good
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Sweden has seen an increase of rape, more from a cultural standpoint than from a religious one as the sexual offenders are mostly north africian rather than middle eastern. They have also changed their sexual offences crime data collection, resulting in high amounts of rape crimes which might otherwise not have been classed as rape.
America's muslim population are much better integrated into society. Rather than planning the cull of muslims which is not going to happen you should try change things to make life better. Isn't 94% of the Uk police force white...that can't be good Sweden from one of the most crime free liberal countries in the world in just a decade has gone to be the rape capital of the world. I am sure the Swedish women and children raped and abused will be relived it's due to culture rather than religion. As for America it has a relatively small Muslim population Oregon is I think the biggest area. The only Islamic terrorist attacks I can recall are Boston and New York albeit New York was massive. The military operations by the USA dwarf countries like Britain and often the foreign policy is decided by the U.S.. So I am surprised if all this is to do with foreign policy and randomly and without objective bombing the Middle East that America is unscathed relative to the carnage in Europe. Could it be a) the yanks would not put up with it whereas we are stifled by political correctness b) there are vastly higher muslin populations in Europe as a %. Whereas I do agree the Muslims are better integrated in America that's surely due to the past poisonous docrine of multi culturism that's created Muslim ghettos like Luton tower hamlets Bradford Blackburn etc etc
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And by the way never once did I say there should be a cull of Muslims but if we are to solve this carnage ignoring the obvious is not the way to do it
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Countries with no Islamic populations such as Japan parts of Eastern Europe, South America, islamic populations zero Islamic attacks also zero, co-incidence ?
What exactly is your point? The bigger the Islamic population the bigger the risk France and Belgium / Sweden have suffered the highest attacks and social issues like rape despite not being involved at all overseas in the case of the latter. They all have high Islamic populations. Why is America not suffering the same scale as Europe ? That's a fact or is it untrue ? So what are you suggesting Stan?
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And by the way never once did I say there should be a cull of Muslims but if we are to solve this carnage ignoring the obvious is not the way to do it You are quick to ignore the obvious when it relates to the UK's actions. You are trying to making people believe that muslims are scum and they woulda attack anyway, got little or nothing to do with the west turning the middle east into hell on earth. Well when u create hell you create devils that is obvious enough. I still don't know what obvious answers u have to your conclusions. A good one would be to try integrate better, the police force being all white is a good start. What answers do you have besides Muslims are scum? Least we not forget too that White men have terrible disgusting records on sex slavery ,child rape etc etc..Jimmy Saville got keys to kids rooms after dark.
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they are so much more favourable than sunni nutjobs.. they are the attacked in a civil war..civil wars are the ugliest ..american one was just as brutal Assad was not attacked in Syria, he is the one who attacked his population. You cannot deny that.
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Emp accuses me of saying Muslims are scum I never said that. The majority of Muslims are peaceful but a significant element are not and its a major problem accross the world. Defending the mass Muslim abuse of women and children can't be excused because Jimmy Savile did it, That's obvious to all but are the defenders of the saying we cannot recognise that if that's the case you can say goodbye to our civilisation. We can't do much about Muslim populations already in the west but we can stop Muslim all immigration only under very controlled circumstances. Emp does make a good point about integration of existing Muslim populations and I think that's an avenue that should be explored. But how ? All my life I have lived near places like Preston Blackburn Bolton where there are big Muslim populations and there is no integration whatsoever people (particularly women) live their whole lives never learning English or speaking to a person outside these tight communities. In the main they are safe to walk through but some areas like areas of Oldham are not safe to walk through. Surely this cannot be a healthy situation for a country a nation within a nation ? And I am sure this is part of the problem for the abuse and violence. And emp you justify this in culture grounds I am afraid no culture can justify that. But if we are to integrate these communities how would it be done you can't force people to integrate
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Emp accuses me of saying Muslims are scum I never said that. The majority of Muslims are peaceful but a significant element are not and its a major problem accross the world. Defending the mass Muslim abuse of women and children can't be excused because Jimmy Savile did it, That's obvious to all but are the defenders of the saying we cannot recognise that if that's the case you can say goodbye to our civilisation. We can't do much about Muslim populations already in the west but we can stop Muslim all immigration only under very controlled circumstances. Emp does make a good point about integration of existing Muslim populations and I think that's an avenue that should be explored. But how ? All my life I have lived near places like Preston Blackburn Bolton where there are big Muslim populations and there is no integration whatsoever people (particularly women) live their whole lives never learning English or speaking to a person outside these tight communities. In the main they are safe to walk through but some areas like areas of Oldham are not safe to walk through. Surely this cannot be a healthy situation for a country a nation within a nation ? And I am sure this is part of the problem for the abuse and violence. And emp you justify this in culture grounds I am afraid no culture can justify that. But if we are to integrate these communities how would it be done you can't force people to integrate Integration will be very difficult because cultures and values are different (how do you go to the pub with a religious Muslim friend). I live in a multi cultural/ethnic society where integration happens at the school and at work but much less among families, mainly because the way of life is different. I won't say we are totally integrated in Mauritius (inter religion marriages are not very common for example) but there is tolerance because no community really feels it is dominated by the other, though there can be specific cases every now and then. That said, some few Muslims did go to the ISIS middle East and not because they are being oppressed, but they have been made to believe that their 'brothers' are. I would say that the beginning of all this has been the West (USA) letting Israel do what they want, everybody knows that there must be a 2 states solution, it is not happening because it doesn't suit Israel. I fear it has gone too far now because a cause has turned into fanatism. Things might not get much better, probably not worse.
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I agree with Vish it's probably gone too far whoevers fault it is really does not matter. For western societies and non Muslim communities the issue is now one of survival. I have family in Sweden if you think I am right wing you want to hear their opinions. Sweden is finished their society has been devastated bringing in millions of uneducated young men from a society completely different with different values to women children homosexuals etc mixing that with what was a highly liberal country. It's depressing and frightening
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