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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I accept Saudi Arabia is a problem in Islamic terrorism not sure it's the government though true most of the 911 hijackers were Saudi but Saudi citizens just the same as many Muslim British citizens are jihadis. Saudi is the heart of Islam where meca is and the current severe interpretation of Islam whabbism it is said started in Saudi in the 30,s so yes there is a problem. The alternative to having friendly relations with the Saudi government is not to have friendly relations not sure how that helps. On my other points still no response I note


So selling arms to terrorist sympathisers is the friendly thing to do.

Are you serious?

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So all this terrorism is because we invaded Iraq right ? Simple question then why are not the terrorists all or mostly Iraqi ? Why are most attacks in Britain by British citizens ? And why were there not huge numbers of jihadists in the late 1940,s attacking Britain ? Given our involvement in the Middle East militarily then was on a vast scale with vast armies of British tanks and artillery all over Libya and Egypt that did not seem to bother them in the slightest


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
So all this terrorism is because we invaded Iraq right ? Simple question then why are not the terrorists all or mostly Iraqi ? Why are most attacks in Britain by British citizens ? And why were there not huge numbers of jihadists in the late 1940,s attacking Britain ? Given our involvement in the Middle East militarily then was on a vast scale with vast armies of British tanks and artillery all over Libya and Egypt that did not seem to bother them in the slightest


I am not here to justify terrorism. However your constant attacks on Muslims whilst ignoring the behaviour of western governments in the region is quite frankly absurd.

Ask yourself this, has western interference in the region improved the situation or made it worse.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
So all this terrorism is because we invaded Iraq right ? Simple question then why are not the terrorists all or mostly Iraqi ? Why are most attacks in Britain by British citizens ? And why were there not huge numbers of jihadists in the late 1940,s attacking Britain ? Given our involvement in the Middle East militarily then was on a vast scale with vast armies of British tanks and artillery all over Libya and Egypt that did not seem to bother them in the slightest


Oh and do please give us your view on Britain selling arms to terrorist sympathisers.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
So all this terrorism is because we invaded Iraq right ? Simple question then why are not the terrorists all or mostly Iraqi ? Why are most attacks in Britain by British citizens ? And why were there not huge numbers of jihadists in the late 1940,s attacking Britain ? Given our involvement in the Middle East militarily then was on a vast scale with vast armies of British tanks and artillery all over Libya and Egypt that did not seem to bother them in the slightest


Oh and do please give us your view on Britain selling arms to terrorist sympathisers.


Stop changing the subject we sold weapons well before the jihadi madness started you keep telling us its because we invaded Iraq then answer my points


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So all this terrorism is because we invaded Iraq right ? Simple question then why are not the terrorists all or mostly Iraqi ? Why are most attacks in Britain by British citizens ? And why were there not huge numbers of jihadists in the late 1940,s attacking Britain ? Given our involvement in the Middle East militarily then was on a vast scale with vast armies of British tanks and artillery all over Libya and Egypt that did not seem to bother them in the slightest


Oh and do please give us your view on Britain selling arms to terrorist sympathisers.


Stop changing the subject we sold weapons well before the jihadi madness started you keep telling us its because we invaded Iraq then answer my points


Answer the question, do you approve of the British Government selling arms to terrorist sympathisers?

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Well given you wont answer my question because clearly you can't I will answer yours which is off topic but what the hell. Yes there are questions to be asked of Saudi Arabia but at the moment that has to be diplomatic. They are one of our allies in the Middle East which is highly volatile so yes I do think we should sell them weapons as part of international arms trade under UN regulations. The alternative is not to do so in which case they will simply buy from the Russia and China completely destabilising the Middle East with a Sunni shai mix with Iran. It does not bear thinking of.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Well given you wont answer my question because clearly you can't I will answer yours which is off topic but what the hell. Yes there are questions to be asked of Saudi Arabia but at the moment that has to be diplomatic. They are one of our allies in the Middle East which is highly volatile so yes I do think we should sell them weapons as part of international arms trade under UN regulations. The alternative is not to do so in which case they will simply buy from the Russia and China completely destabilising the Middle East with a Sunni shai mix with Iran. It does not bear thinking of.


So you admit that you support the sale of arms by the British Government to terrorist sympathisers.

So you support terrorism.

I think this debate is over

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Sometimes in politics judgement is required and my thoughts tie with the British governments which have been consistent throughout all governments both labour and Tory. To cut off relations with Saudi would be stupid beyond belief and highly dangerous. Back to my points what we all learned from the school playground was if you could not answer a question change the subject.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Sometimes in politics judgement is required and my thoughts tie with the British governments which have been consistent throughout all governments both labour and Tory. To cut off relations with Saudi would be stupid beyond belief and highly dangerous. Back to my points what we all learned from the school playground was if you could not answer a question change the subject.


I'm sorry I don't debate with terrorists

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