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I think given mckenzies past was stupid in the extreme particularly at this time of year and I am amazed the sun still employ him it seems provocative and uncommercial it probably affects their sales. I also think given he is of mixed race using the headline referring to ape was probably racist and the sun might find themselves in hot water. But there is some truth in the article grossly overpaid premiership footballers drinking and lording it in local nightclubs is probably a risky siruation and you could say an unprofessional one. You may agree or not but that is a legitimate opinion and with free speech you should be allowed to express it. So although I do think the article goes beyond what should have been published Mckenzie is an idiot who should not be employed in that capacity I do think there is an element of manufactured rage going on. We need to be careful as in the future we will not be allowed to say anything including forums like this.

Yep !

I don't read The Sun, but I don't see anything terrible about what he said. Why does everyone feel so entitled that they need to be offended by everything and anything? We make quips about other cities all the time, just when it affects you, it seems we have this right to be offended. Think it's blown out of proportion, people should get over it.

I agree, he has free speech to comment on players wages/behaviour, but when he compares to a 'city' saying he only Liverpool people with money are drugs deals, he crossed the line, did he say the same about John Terry and compared him to London drugs dealers who are the only rich people?? JT has done far more despicable things.

McKenzie takes every opportunity to rubbish Liverpool as he is on a personal battle, It's crazy the Sun have not severed all links with the odious poisonous snake. The good thing is this is not just Liverpool, the whole country has seen how McKenzie and the Sun behave, hopefully people will stop buying the trash and will pressure the advertisers, you'd think Murdoch would have put a stop to all this as he has been dragged through the smelly stuff in the last few years and would want to be clear of it. The timing also sucks, but Barkley provided the bullets with his behaviour at this time of year.

The Ape comment is interesting, as I had no idea Barkley had a mixed race background, as probably most didn't as it is not obvious, so unless you know his heritage, it's defendable I guess, but press should check facts before printing, so they should know.

I have to disagree with you Stan!
McKenzie has consistently attacked The People of Liverpool for 28 years, using some of the most fabricated lies and despicable language. To have this article out on the eve of Hillsborough when the initial incident that he was writing about happened 5 days earlier shows that this was purposely put together to get maximum distress and shock value!
I have no doubt nobody at The S*n or NewsUK including McKenzie fact checked about Barkley's heritage or even bothered to check just how many young men from Liverpool earn 60k a week salaries or are in jail. I'm sure there aren't many young men on 60k a week salaries not just in Liverpool but around the UK... but that shouldn't give him a platform to be so hateful to a wide audience especially considering his history with the City!

I agree with Freedom of Speech and the ability to voice ones personal opinion, but the media really ought to be held to a higher standard and vetted vigorously because they have the ability to persuade and change peoples opinion even if there is no basis or facts.

Not in any way in the same contaxt but Klopp's underhand, off the cuff comments about Trump and Brexit being strange the other month was wrong and it was abusing Freedom of Speech. There's a very fine line with voicing personal opinion to the masses especailly when there is no facts to back them up.

Not very often I totally agree with you oh masterful one, but I DO.
Most excellent post.

It's no problem voicing your personal opinion to your friends and family when there's no basis or facts to that opinion because they know you and can disagree with you there and then.
It's a totally different matter when you use a platform to the masses like the media because those being attacked have no say in it or comeback. Once a video or article is out there, people who view or read it don't have the other side's say on the matter.
Unfortunately not everybody has the commonsense to pick through what's being viewed or read and their opinion can then be manipulated!

Yup, can't disagree with any of that either

Only major criticism is the timing.
Couldn't be worse,.
The man's a total tw@t for at least that alone

He is an idiot,but there is no way that he as a so called journalist nor the paper wouldnt look at the subjects background before writing those things about him.
Obviously Apart from the Gorilla reference there are some facts like his earnings but everything else was a stereotypical insult on where he is from.
So why on earth would that paper allow that man who has caused so much upset be allowed to write such things in their name knowing full well the timing.
It cant/wont be overlooked by people who care about the timing,lots of people can ignore him but why would they when its seems a deliberate provocation at this time,people here dont want to hear from him at all regardless of free speech. That paper is supposed to be building bridges to help sell their paper Ha!there is no chance of that, they want people to believe the apologies given in the past when still allowing this to go to print. He and they deserve everything they get for the lack of thought at least.

What I find odd is the sun have suspended him for the article. But surely they are proof read and approved by the editors ? As I said it was a stupid and unwise article and could well face legal action. But had he wrote an article that said along with the £60k a week comes professional responsibilities who could disagree with that ? Even if you do it's a legitimate opinion. As for him not liking Liverpool and its people of that there is no doubt but objectionable though that is its not a crime and I can assure you many Liverpool fans don't like the city of Manchester. My concern is genenerally in society now there is too much manufactured rage in the case of Mckenzie there appears to be a case to answer but we must not rush to be threatening jailing or hounding everyone who disagrees with us but that's the way things are going