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First of all klopp picks the team. The fact Lucas plays cb Milner lb and we play with no forward shows that it's a combination of both fsg and klopp. Now as it stands klopp is happy to pretend everything is OK at Liverpool when in reality it's far from it. Either he needs to start talking or he's gonna make himself look like fool because he's the one picking the team.
As for fsg everyday the hatred grows for them and rightly so. They've single handly destroyed one of the biggest football clubs into a profitable midtable franchise. We need so many players at this stage to get back to the top that we don't have the ability to lure the quality players to the club anymore.
As it was before klopp the previous manager was happy to fill us all up with bs that it was his team and transfers and so on. Klopp saying more or less the same thing he's only shooting himself in the foot by picking some of these useless players and refusing to change the personnell playing week in week out when they shouldn't be anywhere near the football club. I still don't think that Klopp is hiding anything. He would have had plenty of offers before he came here. He knows the story with FSG and is happy to work under them. His problem is that he thought he could get us top 4 this season and do well in cups etc without signing anyone until the summer. But we we're imploding throughout the month of January, so he couldn't possibly have thought that Paul, else he's an idiot, everyone else was calling for reinforcements! Either he's a bungling idiot or he wasn't given the money, and you know what? After that display of tactical ineptitude last night, it may well be the former...time will tell.
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First of all klopp picks the team. The fact Lucas plays cb Milner lb and we play with no forward shows that it's a combination of both fsg and klopp. Now as it stands klopp is happy to pretend everything is OK at Liverpool when in reality it's far from it. Either he needs to start talking or he's gonna make himself look like fool because he's the one picking the team.
As for fsg everyday the hatred grows for them and rightly so. They've single handly destroyed one of the biggest football clubs into a profitable midtable franchise. We need so many players at this stage to get back to the top that we don't have the ability to lure the quality players to the club anymore.
As it was before klopp the previous manager was happy to fill us all up with bs that it was his team and transfers and so on. Klopp saying more or less the same thing he's only shooting himself in the foot by picking some of these useless players and refusing to change the personnell playing week in week out when they shouldn't be anywhere near the football club. I still don't think that Klopp is hiding anything. He would have had plenty of offers before he came here. He knows the story with FSG and is happy to work under them. His problem is that he thought he could get us top 4 this season and do well in cups etc without signing anyone until the summer. But we we're imploding throughout the month of January, so he couldn't possibly have thought that Paul, else he's an idiot, everyone else was calling for reinforcements! Either he's a bungling idiot or he wasn't given the money, and you know what? After that display of tactical ineptitude last night, it may well be the former...time will tell. I really don't think he is being denied what he wants. I think this is how he operates, he said all this when he signed and this is how he operated at Dortmund. Everyone knew that we needed reinforcements in January. But I think that he thought that he would wait till the summer to get the targets he wanted. I think he is thinking long term and thought in January that I will risk it and hopefully we get top 4. I was reading a thing online last night I will try find it and post it. It was a liverpool supporter asking Dortmund fans questions about Klopp. And the one thing that was said that you will have to be patient with him as he will take him time in getting the players he wants. They said that it took a while before they got going.
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[/quote]But we we're imploding throughout the month of January, so he couldn't possibly have thought that Paul, else he's an idiot, everyone else was calling for reinforcements! Either he's a bungling idiot or he wasn't given the money, and you know what? After that display of tactical ineptitude last night, it may well be the former...time will tell. But we've been here before with FSG...not so much with Klopp. It's time to see the wood for the trees, Klopp is taking the blame for the teams poor performances just like Brendan, Dalglish and Hodgson. Football is brutal to any Manager and going after the Owners as a Manager is a surefire way to blackball your future. It's easy for FSG to rinse and replace because it buys them time with another new Manager regime. If Klopp goes they get someone else in for groundhog x 4 seasons or whatever it takes until the fans unrest. We are with the Nett Spend Yankees, no room for success on the pitch!
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I'm not silly enough to blindly support Klopp.
Yes he has made mistakes.
Going into the entire season with Milner at left back.
Playing Lucas in central defence because he was too pig headed to give Sahko another chance.
Going through the season without a striker, I think we can say that Sicknotes career is over, and Origi is just a kid.
Now the question is, did he try to address the failings above?
Or was he over ruled by FSG.
None of us will ever know until he leaves the club.
Personally I don't believe Klopp is stupid enough not to have wanted to address those failings, therefore I have to conclude that this is down to FSG.
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The players also need to take their fair share of the blame. We were completely outrun and outfought last night, any team can lose a game but when the opposition so clearly wants it more like Leicester did last night I don't think its acceptable.
We couldn't complete a pass last night, we never made a tackle, won a header or a second ball, we were abject and that's being generous.
Personally I'm bored of listening to our current players talking to the media about how we are ready for the next game, how training is great, how new contracts are motivation, how youngsters getting a chance is great! How about you do your [oops] jobs on the pitch and stop messing around with the media and doing Nivea adverts?
I'd love to see Roy Keane get hold of the pre-Madonna's we have in our squad, they wouldn't last two minutes next to a proper man!
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I see a lot of people blaming Klopp for the wrong tactics etc, if you really can't see over the trees then I'm truly sorry.
Look at our squad, basically it is 11 players, take out any player and we have to resort to putting square pegs in round holes.
Take out Mane and Coutinho last night and who have we got reserve.
Moreno and Origi.
That is the true problem, our squad has been consistently asset stripped each year by FSG, look at last summer we had decent squad players sold Ibe, Smith etc.
From the start people have fell for the FSG excuse that they were trimming the high wage bill, we lost Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Kuyt, under FSG because they were earning too much.
Gerrard was not offered a new contract to save money.
The list is endless, without including out marquee players sold under FSG - Mascherano, Torres, Suarez, Sterling all for big money.
Hell they even sent 50million worth of players on loan to claw back a couple of million.
We can all see the next to leave will be Coutinho. For a owner who never watches football or the team he owns (Liverpool) to suddenly turn up and watch Barcelona vs a small Spanish team is just too implausible for me to comprehend.
So more asset stripping in the summer.
I would challenge any manager to compete, Fergie, Kenny, Mourinho to compete when they have a total of 11 players to choose from.
Is it Klopps fault? Not in terms of winning matches with what he has at his disposal.
BUT i would say like that BR before him, it is Klopps fault for not standing up to FSG and demanding a bigger squad, better players, I suppose Klopp will eventually fall on his sword, sacked or quit.
And the next patsy with a 5 year plan will work under this ridiculous FSG football plan of small squads and reduced wage bill.
Most likely Gerrard, either way unless FSG go, I can't see us winning the title again. cant give klopp a walk over the manner of the defeats are down to klopp not the owners . So the players are blameless aswell as brainless then Faz? no of course the players are to blame , but its the managers job to motivate the players .
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