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JK certainly hasn't struggled to adapt to the PM.
Utter crap, as was quite evident when we were TOP of the PL up until December, only now to be let down by incompetent bone idle 'leggy' worn out in desperate need of a holiday...bless 'em...players.
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People talking about injuries, players missing, loss of form etc, are these not problems that every club has over a season has and is routinely dealt with, why do people make out we are special and it's only us that has these problems. I think posters are using these excuses to defelect the critism of an incompetent manager myself who is clearly struggling to adapt to the league. JC ALMIGHTY, you DO talk some utter utter pure 100% grade shyte.  Typical spangalism.  Oh, btw, still waiting to hear how you managed to circumnavigate the system to get back in here YET again, or did you promise to behave yourself this time....another again.... with some first class slithery snail trail style grovelling? ? It's laughable how he's allowed to return and spout the same rubbish as before. It must be a real sad life to get your sole enjoyment out of ruining and spamming a football forum.
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Let's keep to the football shall we lads.....
I used the word incompetent when describing Klopp for the simple reason he has been in the job for one enough to address the problem of the defence and its still as bad as when he first came. We are still employing a midfielder to play left back and still playing Lucas at centre half whilst letting a natural centre half go out on loan not even replacing him, he's a poor manager or should I say he's acting like a poor manager not sorting this out.
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What did you ever see in Sakho to make you think we should have kept him? On top of that a filthy attitude..good riddance I say.
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What did you ever see in Sakho to make you think we should have kept him? On top of that a filthy attitude..good riddance I say. maybe it's because I would feel better with him in my defence than relying on a midfielder in Lucas which is basically what it's come down too. Dear me Klopp must be really struggling if we are at the stage where he is having to play a midfielder out of position at centre half, the same player that he's been trying to offload last two transfer windows.
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If we qualify for the champions league Spangler we all know what we should be expecting recruitment wise and if it's not forthcoming you'll see a very different attitude towards FSG of that I'm sure. ... been hoping this for 4 years and still waiting.
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If we qualify for the champions league Spangler we all know what we should be expecting recruitment wise and if it's not forthcoming you'll see a very different attitude towards FSG of that I'm sure. ... been hoping this for 4 years and still waiting. so would you like to see new owners then? Even tho we would be swapping like for like...
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Let's keep to the football shall we lads.....
I used the word incompetent when describing Klopp for the simple reason he has been in the job for one enough to address the problem of the defence and its still as bad as when he first came. We are still employing a midfielder to play left back and still playing Lucas at centre half whilst letting a natural centre half go out on loan not even replacing him, he's a poor manager or should I say he's acting like a poor manager not sorting this out. You can't even keep to the forum rules, never mind the football.
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Just to pull this back to the thread. A couple of statistics for you based on league games...
At the turn of the year, at the half-way point in the season, Liverpool were:
Managing an average of 17.42 shots on goal, in 2017 we're managing 15.8.
Managing an average of 6.1 shots on target, in 2017 we're marginally better at 6.4.
Managing to covert 39.66% of those shots on target into goals, now, in 2017, we're managing 18.75%.
Managing to concede an average of 7.68 shots on goal, in 2017 we're conceding slightly more at 8.
Managing to restrict teams to an average 3.05 shots on target, in 2017 that is currently 3.4.
Managing to restrict the conversion of those shots on target to 36.21%, that however is currently for 2017 at 52.94%.
I know some people on here don't value statistics, but it clearly demonstrates that we're not managing to shoot as often, and converting a significantly lower proportion of the shots we manage on target. We are only slightly worse in conceding shots and those able to hit the target. The big problem at the back is that irrespective of that, teams are finding it far easier to convert those chances on target into goals. Near 50% easier than before new year.
Most fans are able to see that we've looked a little impotent up front, but to see that we were 100% more likely to score with our shots on target suggests that the chances we are able to take freely on goal are not from truly dangerous areas. We're having to take over 13 shots on goal to score.
In comparison, teams facing Liverpool are finding a defence much easier to score against. Not only that, 4.5 shots on goal appears enough to score a goal. There is therefore a vast increase in the amount of convertible chances these teams are able to create/be gifted.
None of this should surprise anyone seeing these recent performances, but, it does potentially back up the opinion that teams are improving against us in restricting genuine chances, and that we've actually struggled to create chances capable of scoring.
Genuine concern is at the back. Stability is key, and it is a concern that we've started with seven different defenders in those five games. Eight different defenders have featured (with Moreno off the bench) but it certainly doesn't help consistency.
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Just to pull this back to the thread. A couple of statistics for you based on league games...
At the turn of the year, at the half-way point in the season, Liverpool were:
Managing an average of 17.42 shots on goal, in 2017 we're managing 15.8.
Managing an average of 6.1 shots on target, in 2017 we're marginally better at 6.4.
Managing to covert 39.66% of those shots on target into goals, now, in 2017, we're managing 18.75%.
Managing to concede an average of 7.68 shots on goal, in 2017 we're conceding slightly more at 8.
Managing to restrict teams to an average 3.05 shots on target, in 2017 that is currently 3.4.
Managing to restrict the conversion of those shots on target to 36.21%, that however is currently for 2017 at 52.94%.
I know some people on here don't value statistics, but it clearly demonstrates that we're not managing to shoot as often, and converting a significantly lower proportion of the shots we manage on target. We are only slightly worse in conceding shots and those able to hit the target. The big problem at the back is that irrespective of that, teams are finding it far easier to convert those chances on target into goals. Near 50% easier than before new year.
Most fans are able to see that we've looked a little impotent up front, but to see that we were 100% more likely to score with our shots on target suggests that the chances we are able to take freely on goal are not from truly dangerous areas. We're having to take over 13 shots on goal to score.
In comparison, teams facing Liverpool are finding a defence much easier to score against. Not only that, 4.5 shots on goal appears enough to score a goal. There is therefore a vast increase in the amount of convertible chances these teams are able to create/be gifted.
None of this should surprise anyone seeing these recent performances, but, it does potentially back up the opinion that teams are improving against us in restricting genuine chances, and that we've actually struggled to create chances capable of scoring.
Genuine concern is at the back. Stability is key, and it is a concern that we've started with seven different defenders in those five games. Eight different defenders have featured (with Moreno off the bench) but it certainly doesn't help consistency.
We're not converting chances, our defensive record is poor, we are getting beaten despite controlling possession, we lack genuine creativity, we are playing players out of position and our team needs strengthening. See, did not need to write all of that [oops].
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