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Will be interesting when the European games kick in again too. It's no coincidence that the others around us have done much better since they finished last year (apart from City who are still ropey).

yes once the top four place was secure and only when they were out of the champions league, I think we only have to see the type of team Wenger puts out in Cup games to see how important he takes them.

And what if we're not out of CL contention? Even a loss to Chelsea doesn't mean it's over. And signing players wouldn't have guaranteed anything.

No, signing players doesn't guarantee anything, it's a risk, and the better your squad the better are your chances. Shouldn't we buy anybody ever then as there are no guarantees?

Looks like you live in hope which is ok. I must say I saw our Jan performance coming and even said we need to sign an attacking player like our 4 attacking players early Jan. Now I feel we won't qualify for CL, hopefully I'm wrong.

Most of us trust Klopp and think he's a world class manager. But FSG have to trust Klopp and back him too. I'm fairly certain Klopp has had a few targets that FSG hasn't made a real effort to go out and get... and I think Klopp is such a game and willing personality that he's making a go of the current situation. He did wonders on a shoestring at Dortmund... and motivated an average squad to overachievements in the first half of the season. But he needs a bit of bolstering... it's obvious to everyone.

Why you keep asking for a list of players is beyond me. January is a tougher market but players can be had and deals can get done. There is no evidence that all the good players are locked up in this window - it makes for a nice soundbite excuse but it's just not true.

Most of us trust Klopp and think he's a world class manager. But FSG have to trust Klopp and back him too. I'm fairly certain Klopp has had a few targets that FSG hasn't made a real effort to go out and get... and I think Klopp is such a game and willing personality that he's making a go of the current situation. He did wonders on a shoestring at Dortmund... and motivated an average squad to overachievements in the first half of the season. But he needs a bit of bolstering... it's obvious to everyone.

Why you keep asking for a list of players is beyond me. January is a tougher market but players can be had and deals can get done. There is no evidence that all the good players are locked up in this window - it makes for a nice soundbite excuse but it's just not true.

What other teams around us have found players and got deals done? I can't think of any , we are not mid table fodder that can bring in Downings and Adams Klopp knows what he needs and if it's not there what can he or FSG do?

Like who? Certainly not in January when he's said all along that we probably wouldn't buy anyone.

And if you seriously think he's world class and would be fukked around by the owners and would make the best of it then you're a tad wrong there. He could leave and have his pick of clubs so why on earth would he put up with that? He's nothing more than a German Rodgers if that's the case.

I ask for player names as there seems to be a lot of 'there must be someone out there' going about but no names coming forward. Surely if all those saying that know that and obviously more than Klopp, they might give us a name or two or drop Klopp a line and let him know do you not think?

You just seem to keep missing the point. All players - any players - there is not a specific list for January and the summer. Of course, there are nuances and possibilities in January - players not getting adequate game time at top clubs and/or disgruntled players that are looking for an out (the likes of Payet, Ivanovich, etc.) Yes, it's more difficult to negotiate - but not impossible like people are claiming. Our rivals haven't bought much either - but they don't need to - they have bigger and fuller squads. One or two of them might do something on deadline day too - who knows.