KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Get behind klopp, he's now finding the issues with our team.

Let's face it klopp has made us dream again. He got some very good performances from average players. But we still have the same issues as when woy, Kenny and brodgers was here. Our core of the team is to weak left side of defence, gk and midfield all needs improving. Hendo, can, lovren, moreno, milner, mig, should not be starting. I hope klopp gets the time and permission to sort this mess out. Also the academy is not producing the quality we need this also needs improving. Sell the dead wood bring in some established players but also invest in youth. Enough of trying to find a diamond in a desert. Back the manager.

I think different managers get different tunes out of players, Klopp has got some players playing better than the previous one like Firmino just like Rodgers seemed to get the best out of Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge. I just think Klopp needs to earn our respect first which up to now he hasn't before we start giving him accolades as for me every good thing he has done he has done things not so good, am reserving my judgement for now.

Hendo and Milner shouldnt start but Wijnaldum should? Im not fan of Hendo but hes much better than Wij, its not fair he can escape criticism because hes one of klopps players. Also Klavan shouldnt be a Liverpool player let alone squad member. Lovren isnt great but could be a useful squad player 3/4 choice, although id probably be happy if he went.

The academy at Liverpool has been appalling in recent years. We havent really had any solid youth player break through and establish themselves as a first team player.

The manager will always be backed. But one thing he shouldnt be is... immune to is criticism. Klopp should only be judged on WHAT HE DOES AND DONE AT LIVERPOOL and not Dortmund or Mainz. Today, although i wasnt really bothered going out, it was the manner we went out and with the team we went out with. There wasnt many youth players playing, in fact the squad was a majority of squad players. Equally, Klopp was the one who bought players in the summer and he left us short. Ok so we cant sign anyone now, but he bought players in the summer he knew would possibly be gone for a month and also the fact we had little cover in so many areas.

I am fine with Klopp getting another manager won't solve a thing there are fundamental problems at the club though and have been for a long time until they are solved nothing will improve

I agree wij shouldn't be starting the only players I think should start are coutinho firmino mane matip and Clyne all the rest need to be sqaud or sold. It's same old story has been for a few year our midfield use to be solid now it's weak. Remember the days Alonso macherano Gerrard etc we had some real grit and passing going on there now we have players who can pass backwards or sideways. Just another thought maybe we need to improve our scouting network? Seems to be recruitment is the issue

I would suggest we hallucinated for a while.

to hallucinate: 'to experience a seemingly real perception of something not actually present, typically as a result of a mental disorder or of taking drugs.'

the only question is, which of the two categories do each of us fall into?

Drugs for me, I don't have any disorders

What was not real about the first half of the season then?

It was of course said partly tongue in cheek... but what was not real was the growing perception that we had found a team/formula that would be able to produce strong performances consistently through to the end of the season.

I was always expecting a down turn. Everything has one. But what was real is that we have a team that can compete. When Mane is back they're all there, the same players and they haven't suddenly become shitte so we can get back to that.