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Wilk your concentrating too much on the little things i was talking about. Its the fact Burnley scored 2, Bournmouth 4, sunderland 2 and swansea 3. Thats a joke well at least it should be for a team like Liverpool. None of Rodgers teams could defend and none of Klopps team could defend. The difference is, rodgers built his own defense and it failed and when klopp came he used the majority of the same defense and its still failing.
No matter what way we look at it, youve got to admit thats a really bad management mistake by Klopp. I think if we drop out of the top 4 this year, I think in the summer Klopp will have a meeting with FSG and it will be put out on the table we have to spend more money or Im gone because I cant do my job without the resources. Thats what I believe will happen whether Im right or wrong we'll have to see. I was wrong about Mane but I was right about contract talks the minute things went downhill. Yes we've been leaking goals which is why I'd rather we strengthen at the back or in midfield. We've scored plenty this season and even with out Mane we still can score. This is why I've been trying to ask Vish how we're short up front. I don't think there has been any management mistake from Klopp, quite the opposite in fact. He bought in the players he wanted and didn't get too many at once which can upset a team big time. Look what happened when Rodgers went on a spending spree and Spurs too. He's taking a sensible, measured approach which is why people are upset as we all want it now, now, now. You can argue all you like about not bringing players in now, this month, but if Klopp is saying the right player isn't available then surely we have to trust that or do we think he's a liar? I trust him as he seems to be an honest, up front kind of chap and one that won't be a puppet for FSG before anyone starts saying it's them being tight.
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I never thought we'd get another shot at a title tilt...up until November / December our attacking strengths put our defensive frailties in the shadows because we were winning and winning well.
The shallow quality depth of the team and Klopp's tactics have caught up with us. We have 2 x Number 2 Goalkeepers (Mignolet & Karius), 1 x Number 2 CB (Klavan) that was acquired to replace a Number 1 CB (Sakho). FSG told Klopp to sell before he buys and / or make do with what he had, they have not given a reasonable financial amount to strengthen the team.
We have 1 week left of the transfer window and if we don't use it, Top 4 will be an impossibility!
I love Klopp but he has to grow some balls and tell FSG how it is...the team is not adequate enough to make Top 4.
This has nothing to do with FSG. If we don't get any players it's all on Klopp.
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Wilk your concentrating too much on the little things i was talking about. Its the fact Burnley scored 2, Bournmouth 4, sunderland 2 and swansea 3. Thats a joke well at least it should be for a team like Liverpool. None of Rodgers teams could defend and none of Klopps team could defend. The difference is, rodgers built his own defense and it failed and when klopp came he used the majority of the same defense and its still failing.
No matter what way we look at it, youve got to admit thats a really bad management mistake by Klopp. I think if we drop out of the top 4 this year, I think in the summer Klopp will have a meeting with FSG and it will be put out on the table we have to spend more money or Im gone because I cant do my job without the resources. Thats what I believe will happen whether Im right or wrong we'll have to see. I was wrong about Mane but I was right about contract talks the minute things went downhill. Your very negative about the club, yes we've lost to and conceded more goals than we should against Burnley, Bournemouth and Swansea. However we are unbeaten against all of our rivals in the top 6, that's a serious positive and shows we aren't far away. The squad needs improving yes but you need to read Klopp's interview which has been posted in other threads, he has clearly said it's difficult in this window because other clubs don't want to sell their key players half way through a season. You need to trust what our manager says and come away from conspiracy theories.
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Wilk your concentrating too much on the little things i was talking about. Its the fact Burnley scored 2, Bournmouth 4, sunderland 2 and swansea 3. Thats a joke well at least it should be for a team like Liverpool. None of Rodgers teams could defend and none of Klopps team could defend. The difference is, rodgers built his own defense and it failed and when klopp came he used the majority of the same defense and its still failing.
No matter what way we look at it, youve got to admit thats a really bad management mistake by Klopp. I think if we drop out of the top 4 this year, I think in the summer Klopp will have a meeting with FSG and it will be put out on the table we have to spend more money or Im gone because I cant do my job without the resources. Thats what I believe will happen whether Im right or wrong we'll have to see. I was wrong about Mane but I was right about contract talks the minute things went downhill. Your very negative about the club, yes we've lost to and conceded more goals than we should against Burnley, Bournemouth and Swansea. However we are unbeaten against all of our rivals in the top 6, that's a serious positive and shows we aren't far away. The squad needs improving yes but you need to read Klopp's interview which has been posted in other threads, he has clearly said it's difficult in this window because other clubs don't want to sell their key players half way through a season. You need to trust what our manager says and come away from conspiracy theories. I make that judgement based on how bad we have been under the current establishment. 1 LC and thats it. We lost a final but nobody remembers that teams that finish 2nd. Liverpool are always building for the future which is why we havent won or competed properly for the league. I read Klopps interview and I have my own opinions on it. Ive posted what I think will happen further down the line, I wont make excuses if im wrong but i hope people dont either if it turns out im right.
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So if a opposition team states,
erm we're going to park the bus against you Kloppy we as in Liverpool should just not turn up right
BECAUSE WE HAVE NO F UKING IDEA WHAT TO DO GIVEN PAST RESULSTS EVEN IF THERE MOSTLY RELEGATION FODDER
LOAD OF B OLLOX WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT FFS SURLY ? We've overcome plenty of defensive teams and handed out some thrashings so far this season. Hull, WBA, Crystal Palace, Watford, Sunderland at home, Middlesbrough, Stoke, Everton away. We're going to come unstuck every now and again but we've proved we can batter even the most defensive of teams.
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Just not burnley , Sunderland, saints, swans, utd at anfield , let's be honest Chris parking the bus works against us does it not ? You can't win every game and smash every team you play. Yes parking the bus against us can work, it can also work against out rivals. As my above post shows we can easily batter defensive teams, but in this league every team drop points they shouldn't because the league is so competitive.
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But we just do it mostly v lower grade teams
Do what against lower grade teams? We've lost to 3 of them this season yes but we've almost hammered a number of them which is clear from our results.
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So irratic form is good ! loosing to lower grade teams is ok as long as we beat a few of them ! Sorry don't subscribe to that we should be beating teams with ease that are in the lower prem Where have I said erratic form is good and where have I said it's ok as long as win a few games? Stop twisting my words and read what I'm actually saying! Every single team in this league drops points against teams they should beat, the league is the most competitive in the world and has been for a long time.
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Well your defending loosing to lower pl teams I'm saying we shouldn't be higher pl teams ok that's exceptable but not any relegation fodder
Yes teams drop points but it's how many in a row that matters have we won this year against a pl team ? I'm not defending it at all, I'm saying it happens in this league and we aren't the only team that will lose or draw games we should win!
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Every set of supporters from the top teams thinks they should hammer every lower table team 3 or 5 nil. We do seem to raise our game against big clubs but all big teams lose to smaller clubs, every season, without fail. Football's not played on paper. I don't know why fans think it's unique to us.
Probably should've beat Swansea though...
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