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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Just for the record, I would like us to sign a player or two.I'm not blind or stupid and can see we could do with more depth. But it has to be the right player for the right price who can improve us.


Yes we all know it ! Klopp knows it so why haven't we made any moves ?
I know it has to be the right players and all that but are you telling me there's no players available or who could be enticed to move available? and given Klopp would know a whole lot more players we probably don't in Europe why do you think we're not trying to plug the very obvious holes we have ? Now we can't blame fsg as they have publicly stated we can compete with anyone one one player fees and wages
So what is it that is stopping us reinforce as we all know we need what ?

P/s not having a personal dig wilks it's just your comments are repeated by a few and yourself often so thought I would pop that Q into the playing field
To me it just does not make sense not to be sorting some stuff out especially when you take into account we know mane would be away and that we desperately need a lb ?
Milnes doing ok but he's not a lb


Well you'll have to ask Klopp why he's not buying anyone as I'm sure this is all down to him and nothing else. Yes he'll know a lot of players we don't but that doesn't mean he thinks they'll work for us does it?

Again, you'll have to ask Klopp why he isn't sorting things but again, you say we should replace Mane but with who? Someone as good? Then what happens when Mane is back? Will he want to sit on the bench for the new man or the new man for Mane? Could they both be played and at the expense of who? It's not as black and white as just getting a replacement.

I agree we could get a LB and free Milner up for the midfield though. Again, no idea who. Maybe G can give us a steer there?

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
No surly fsg can't be the problem they have spent 300mil +++
Has to be something else no players available or not the right ones surly not fsg
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Is it not true that they've spent that level of money?

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Klopp also signed steven caulker. Some people forget that. If he thought caulker would do as cover that was worrying before. If he saw value in a loan move for caulker even as cover then i would be worried about who we sign in the future. Manniger another one which was completely pointless. Failed Arsenal GK.

I dont care what anyone says it would be a truly shocking decision not to sign a LB now. He left us short in the summer he hasnt got a choice he needs to fix it now or else we'll be out of the top 4 and he will have massive pressure on him going into the next season.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By sixtiesred
No surly fsg can't be the problem they have spent 300mil +++
Has to be something else no players available or not the right ones surly not fsg
wink


Is it not true that they've spent that level of money?


Yep it is but it's only when you look at the average spend per player you realise why it hasn't worked


So how can you use that as a stick to beat them with when it's true? They've invested, simple as.

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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
Klopp also signed steven caulker. Some people forget that. If he thought caulker would do as cover that was worrying before. If he saw value in a loan move for caulker even as cover then i would be worried about who we sign in the future. Manniger another one which was completely pointless. Failed Arsenal GK.

I dont care what anyone says it would be a truly shocking decision not to sign a LB now. He left us short in the summer he hasnt got a choice he needs to fix it now or else we'll be out of the top 4 and he will have massive pressure on him going into the next season.


Yet the LB position hasn't been the issue so how will it drop us from the top 4? I'd prefer another CB or a proper midfielder myself this window and manage, as we have done very well, with Milner at LB.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
Cost per player ?


Well say that then. You were using a fact about them that they've spent plenty to beat them with.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Ambitious1
Klopp also signed steven caulker. Some people forget that. If he thought caulker would do as cover that was worrying before. If he saw value in a loan move for caulker even as cover then i would be worried about who we sign in the future. Manniger another one which was completely pointless. Failed Arsenal GK.

I dont care what anyone says it would be a truly shocking decision not to sign a LB now. He left us short in the summer he hasnt got a choice he needs to fix it now or else we'll be out of the top 4 and he will have massive pressure on him going into the next season.


Yet the LB position hasn't been the issue so how will it drop us from the top 4? I'd prefer another CB or a proper midfielder myself this window and manage, as we have done very well, with Milner at LB.


The whole defensive line is a disaster let alone the RB position. If we are talking about now rather than 3/4 season down the line. We still have the same GK who is mistake ridden. The GK he bought hasnt done good at all. Klavan hasnt been good enough and Lovren although hes improved in some ways is still nowhere near good enough for the top level.

In some ways I know it sounds stupid buy maybe if Milner got injured or started making mistakes it would force Klopp into buying a LB. But then again Lovren can make mistake after mistake and still get a game every week.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
12 mil average spend at the same time utd average spend was 28++
Yes agree was for your lb comment

And while we average 12 mil per player we always have probs

Average will be higher now due to player inflation but we will still be below or rivals in most if not all cases 300 mil in cribs and drabs is like pissing into the wind on the bow of a warship on damage that will be done is to yourself !


We're not as rich as Utd or City or Chelsea or even Arsenal so how can you expect us to buy the same level of player price wise? And don't bring out the 5 year old quote of competing with anyone as it's irrelevant.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
Sorry fsg said they can compete with anyone did they not


Which I said to you before was either a lie or a massive mis-calculation of what it takes to compete.

Are they as rich as the clubs I mentioned and if not how can they be expected to compete for the same price level?

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