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Why? It's not aimed at anyone in particular just my wish for the year. Are we not allowed to post them?

Dunk what you have just said is what I think especially the butchers thing, my problem is my wording in my posts.. I come across too passionate and my words can seem aggressive and patronising. I understand fully your point about not everyone has a local club but what's the excuse for people who live in places like Birmingha, London, Brighton, Coventry, Nottingham, Plymouth and all those places in Yorkshire, Midlands, south west and East Coast there are some fine clubs in those areas who are crying out for local support those clubs rely on locals to support them financially and most carry the city or towns coat of arms on there shirts so represent the people from that area. I see so many fine old historical clubs sadly going out of business in the next 10 years or so sadly due to the rising threat posed from the OOT fan unfortunately...

Forest and Leeds decline over the years has nothing to do with their fanbase.

the young up and coming fanbase are turning there backs on clubs like them in order to attach themselves to bigger and more glamorous clubs. I was watching a news story quite recently about a School in Leeds, there was quite a few Leeds United shirts but loads of United ones and a few City shirts too this seems to be a bit of an indication of shifts in fanbase. I know when I was growing up there was only Liverpool and Everton shirts in schools, more Everton than Liverpool now in the city but certainly no other clubs shirts well not British teams, there was always a few England, Scotland Barca and Real Madrid ones but no other British clubs...

Rising threat from the OOT fans. Couldn't make this shitte up.

Dunk for me it's not even about OOT posts but I don't understand what a poster who says the following does here:
1. He doesn't care whether we win or lose, I am sure even those who care less are at least happy when we win.
2. We are as small a team as Evertop despite the fact that they have been nowhere near us for ages having qualified for CL once
3. We should have no ambition in competing for CL as we are a small team
4. SG has never been world class
5. We can win against City only if they have an off day
6. He knows better than Klopp, Rodgers and KD combined as far as Henderson is concerned, ie, he is completely crap, one of the worst players we've ever had
7. We don't have a single top player despite having 2 players playing for Brazil's first team as attackers

I might have forgotten a few, but this guy is here to annoy posters or share whatever life frustrations he's got. I have decided to answer him tit for tat and if that gets me banned, so be it.

what do you think the biggest threat to these lower league clubs going out of business is then? Do you not realise those lower league clubs work differently from Premier League ones, Premier League clubs main income probably comes from television money and merchandise sales, lower league clubs rely soley on people coming through the turnstile with no luxury of merchandise or to money to fall back on.
Surely even you can see the biggest threat to these clubs comes from there own local fanbase turning there backs on them in order to follow richer, more famous and successful bigger named clubs...this is my point...

My hope is Liverpool win the league and certain people grow up, grow a backbone or both.

How about referring to me as DC which is quite clearly distancely challenged which was one of his favorites last time around. And don't tell me you believe he means dear colleagues as he put?

This isn't about differing opinions so none of us need to grow a thick skin. This forum is full of debate and differing opinions and it's great for it.

But it's all from genuine posters so you can have that debate. Our pal here is just on here to wind people up and I can't believe you can't see or condone that. How many times has he come back now? We can ignore him, sure, but when he pollutes every thread with the same ramblings (see his post count) it's very hard to ignore.

People react to him the way they do as we love this forum and the people in it. We all share a common interest and want to talk to like minded people. There was nothing wrong with the forum until the beginning of November when it's taken a massive nose dive and the way people react is just us trying to protect something we love.

If you feel you have to ban genuine posters then that's fine, it's you place. But it will be worse off for it.

Well it's not the fact that a few people from the towns support Liverpool that's for sure. If you look at where I live, Northampton Town are quite well supported. But as a town, Northampton isn't as big as London, Liverpool, Manchester etc. so will never have the same support even if the whole town supported them. The population isn't there. Add into the mix that it's a rugby town and that takes more support from them.

The money in the EPL is killing lower league sides as is the money in top European competition killing what were once good European sides. The money isn't evenly distributed so the rich get richer blah blah.

So it's multi faceted the reasons behind small clubs dying out not just because some people from Northampton might support Liverpool or Utd and it's more than small minded and blinkered to think it is.