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Don't you think Klopp with Dortmund could get away with it though, what I mean is there is only one super club in Germany which is Bayern and as we know every Club can have a one off bad season and a Doertmund or Leverkusen, Schalke might get in one season. I think here building the team won't work as it does in Germany firstly because the bigger than us Clubs in the league will just buy world class firmly established stars that will do a job straight away while Klopp buys potential needing time to develop and as soon as we nurture a player who is good enough one of the bigger clubs will just take him off us anyway because that's the law of the jungle, strong prey on the weaker. That's why I feel we can only go so far as a club despite which manager comes in as it depends on owners, money and spending structure...
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Don't you think Klopp with Dortmund could get away with it though, what I mean is there is only one super club in Germany which is Bayern and as we know every Club can have a one off bad season and a Doertmund or Leverkusen, Schalke might get in one season. I think here building the team won't work as it does in Germany firstly because the bigger than us Clubs in the league will just buy world class firmly established stars that will do a job straight away while Klopp buys potential needing time to develop and as soon as we nurture a player who is good enough one of the bigger clubs will just take him off us anyway because that's the law of the jungle, strong prey on the weaker. That's why I feel we can only go so far as a club despite which manager comes in as it depends on owners, money and spending structure... Do you know who the current EPL champion is? Even your team Everton can win it.
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Don't you think Klopp with Dortmund could get away with it though, what I mean is there is only one super club in Germany which is Bayern and as we know every Club can have a one off bad season and a Doertmund or Leverkusen, Schalke might get in one season. I think here building the team won't work as it does in Germany firstly because the bigger than us Clubs in the league will just buy world class firmly established stars that will do a job straight away while Klopp buys potential needing time to develop and as soon as we nurture a player who is good enough one of the bigger clubs will just take him off us anyway because that's the law of the jungle, strong prey on the weaker. That's why I feel we can only go so far as a club despite which manager comes in as it depends on owners, money and spending structure... Do you know who the current EPL champion is? Even your team Everton can win it. yes the point I am making is you can't really predict smaller Clubs like Leicester who won it, Liverpool, Spurs or Everton winning it, it's not impossible but history shows it happens every 15 to 20 years....
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Currently the biggest difference is that we have Jurgen Klopp. And for this season and next season that gives us a huge advantage. However, if FSG don't support him with money for top players it will difficult for him to achieve sustained success and he would most likely leave for Bayern or Barca. Then we would really be a club living on past memories.
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Currently the biggest difference is that we have Jurgen Klopp. And for this season and next season that gives us a huge advantage. However, if FSG don't support him with money for top players it will difficult for him to achieve sustained success and he would most likely leave for Bayern or Barca. Then we would really be a club living on past memories. I believe he is getting the support he wants from FSG. We were among the first to buy last summer and almost everybody here were questioning the 30+m we paid for Mane.
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Don't you think Klopp with Dortmund could get away with it though, what I mean is there is only one super club in Germany which is Bayern and as we know every Club can have a one off bad season and a Doertmund or Leverkusen, Schalke might get in one season. I think here building the team won't work as it does in Germany firstly because the bigger than us Clubs in the league will just buy world class firmly established stars that will do a job straight away while Klopp buys potential needing time to develop and as soon as we nurture a player who is good enough one of the bigger clubs will just take him off us anyway because that's the law of the jungle, strong prey on the weaker. That's why I feel we can only go so far as a club despite which manager comes in as it depends on owners, money and spending structure... Do you know who the current EPL champion is? Even your team Everton can win it. yes the point I am making is you can't really predict smaller Clubs like Leicester who won it, Liverpool, Spurs or Everton winning it, it's not impossible but history shows it happens every 15 to 20 years.... Putting Everton at the same level as us is stupid and can only be done by a Bluenose.
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Don't you think Klopp with Dortmund could get away with it though, what I mean is there is only one super club in Germany which is Bayern and as we know every Club can have a one off bad season and a Doertmund or Leverkusen, Schalke might get in one season. I think here building the team won't work as it does in Germany firstly because the bigger than us Clubs in the league will just buy world class firmly established stars that will do a job straight away while Klopp buys potential needing time to develop and as soon as we nurture a player who is good enough one of the bigger clubs will just take him off us anyway because that's the law of the jungle, strong prey on the weaker. That's why I feel we can only go so far as a club despite which manager comes in as it depends on owners, money and spending structure... Do you know who the current EPL champion is? Even your team Everton can win it. yes the point I am making is you can't really predict smaller Clubs like Leicester who won it, Liverpool, Spurs or Everton winning it, it's not impossible but history shows it happens every 15 to 20 years.... Putting Everton at the same level as us is stupid and can only be done by a Bluenose. I put Everton in the same bracket as us as they along with ourselves and Spurs are in our own little mini league trying to sneak in to an odd champions League place every 5 years or so. If you say we are not at the Everton level as in trying to achieve an odd champions league place then whose level would you put us on ? Try to answer with your head, not your heart and take into consideration our finishes in the last six or seven seasons...
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I think we are some way ahead of Everton now and we are contenders now for the title however long term once Everton get their new ground and backing who knows ?
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I think we are some way ahead of Everton now and we are contenders now for the title however long term once Everton get their new ground and backing who knows ? sorry I think you are diluded if you think just because Liverpool have finished second on three occasions in about 25 years are on the same footing as United, Arsenal, City and Chelsea it's comical. Even if Liverpool were able to win the League once like Leicester you seriously telling me Leicester are on that same footing too...
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I think we are some way ahead of Everton now and we are contenders now for the title however long term once Everton get their new ground and backing who knows ? sorry I think you are diluded if you think just because Liverpool have finished second on three occasions in about 25 years are on the same footing as United, Arsenal, City and Chelsea it's comical. Even if Liverpool were able to win the League once like Leicester you seriously telling me Leicester are on that same footing too... You are deluded if you think Everton are on the same level as Liverpool.
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