KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum I'm ashamed of my club.

Dont call me pathetic son...Just explain to me how its a step in the right direction by sacking the manager?what difference will it make to the core problem of my club?Do you not think it benefits the cancers most to get rid of someone who would not be their yes man?I just dont understand the sudden glee of everyone just because the manager has gone?

rafa had to go,hopefully the owners are next to go.

we need to get back to basics,become the club shankly built and not a money grabbing,short term success aiming bunch of morons.

let's face it...unless we get massive investment from mega rich new owners....we are not gonna challenge for the title or champs league. if that's what it takes to be successful then i don't want it!

fifa and uefa will soon cut how much clubs can spend and how many foreigners they can field....and it's be a good thing too.

football has gone too far down the slippery money orientated road.

i want my football club back and i want my love of football back.

if that means having no money,little success but bags of fuckking pride in my club....then bring it on and [oops] chelsea and man city!

Not the modern game I'm afraid. If you want success you need money.Manc and Chavs dominating domestic football with most money. While your sentiment is very pure and I was it could happen, the game is far removed from the way Shankly/Paisley built our club.Pride will only get you so far in todays game. Got Rafa the sack!

rafa got rafa the sack - his stubbornness and unwillingness to change when his ideas were clearly not working in the league .... his inability to keep a good working relationship with those around him leading to a high turnover of players and staff ..... and his failure to even manage to challenge for the league twice in 6 years were good enough reasons to sack any manager

So you expect our new manager to challenge for the league next year or the year after?

You need to give people the tools to achieve these things.

In the case of the Premiership the transfer budget to buy world class players and compete with the other top teams who will be given the budget.

Our new manager is not going to be given this so to expect him to be win the league is the next two seasons is very optimistic.

i am sorry did i say that? i said those are the reasons rafa was given the push - he took the job on knowing that his aim was to win the league within 5 years ..... he failed in that aim and failed to even put the league as his main priority

youre club now is it? though it belonged to all fans. you couldnt hit a nerve if i showed you were it was. and your patronising condescending tone will get you nowere. calling people "son"? dont make me laugh.

what should i call you then? you've implied at least 20 times now that me and everyone else who wanted a change at the manager post believes that everythings fine now that rafa is gone. you're trying to make us look like fools when the only fool seems to be you.

third time im saying it today, i wanted a new manager but that doesn't mean i want hicks and gillett to stay! is it that hard to understand?

the reason i think this is a step in the right direction is because it wasn't the owners who picked a negative side game after game, it wasn't the owners who set up the tactics, it wasn't the owners who played lucas and kuyt week in week out no matter how bad they where at the same time as players like yossi could be motm just to sit on the bench the next game. the list goes on but i think you know what i mean.

i respect that you wanted him to stay just like murph and the rest did, but i don't respect the way you try to make it look like everyone who wanted rafa out doesn't understand tat the owners are the biggest problem...

are you thick or something?Where have i said mr kop swede is happy with the owners?Even if a super manager comes in wins the [oops] league and european cup his efforts will be wasted by paying off the [oops] yank [oops] debts that we were promised would not be burdened on the club.I couldnt care less who the manager is/was at the moment in the future its irrelevant to me.Whatever we acheive as a footballing instituition will not be re invested to take us to higher planes,but thrown at the interest servicing those loans.This club is just being used as a golden goose by those cancers and sacking the manager does not resolve anything.

If i wanted to make you laugh i`d send you a mirror...son
Its ok for you to belittle who you choose on here but then get stroppy when others do the same to you...great moderator you are pfff!