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At the time selling to Gillet and hicks was in the best interests of the company in compliance with company law professional advisers were involved it's only now with the benefit of hindsight we know it was a bad decision but that's not the first time such events have occurred in business. As for gifting things to the club well moores did cities, Chelsea's owners do it's also about risk taking. With FSG everything has to be short term self financed which is great for them no so great for the future of the club in relation to competing at the very top. If you are saying Vish we are no longer a top club or will ever be one again that's fine I just find it hard to accept Not sure what you mean by top club, yes, we are no longer the best as we were in the 80's, but this is not new as you know, it started under Moores. With the Anfield additional seats, particularly corporate ones, we will get back to top 4 in revenues. If we qualify constantly for CL, we will be second or third. Beating United I am afraid is going to be very difficult except if their results continue as the last couple of years for a decade or 2, as it has been for us since KD left in the early 90s. Last but not least, we didn't get Chelsea and City like owners after trying a few of times
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We might not get city or Chelsea type owners although I can't see why not we are an attractive club but failing that I would like to see owners with a little more ambition
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We might not get city or Chelsea type owners although I can't see why not we are an attractive club but failing that I would like to see owners with a little more ambition They do have ambition in spades, but it's all about growing the asset value, which they know they can do without risking a single additional dollar of their own money, and they've been very successful at that to date. They have no ambition to compete in the transfer market for top quality players and by logical extension, no ambition towards risk taking investment to win on the field. If it happens then that is just icing on their cake. If you were an investor in the asset you'd be happy with them, but for the life of me I can't see how any fan of the club can be happy with what they've done on the field or on the bricks and mortar infrastructure. As you say the stadium largely defines the stature of of a football club, so how can any fan be happy with the fact that in stadium terms, we are slowly but surely being overtaken, and surpassed by clubs that we're always some distance in our wake?
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We might not get city or Chelsea type owners although I can't see why not we are an attractive club but failing that I would like to see owners with a little more ambition They do have ambition in spades, but it's all about growing the asset value, which they know they can do without risking a single additional dollar of their own money, and they've been very successful at that to date. They have no ambition to compete in the transfer market for top quality players and by logical extension, no ambition towards risk taking investment to win on the field. If it happens then that is just icing on their cake. If you were an investor in the asset you'd be happy with them, but for the life of me I can't see how any fan of the club can be happy with what they've done on the field or on the bricks and mortar infrastructure. As you say the stadium largely defines the stature of of a football club, so how can any fan be happy with the fact that in stadium terms, we are slowly but surely being overtaken, and surpassed by clubs that we're always some distance in our wake? It's called having a different opinion to you. Shocking hey?
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And what opinion would that be ?
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We might not get city or Chelsea type owners although I can't see why not we are an attractive club but failing that I would like to see owners with a little more ambition They do have ambition in spades, but it's all about growing the asset value, which they know they can do without risking a single additional dollar of their own money, and they've been very successful at that to date. They have no ambition to compete in the transfer market for top quality players and by logical extension, no ambition towards risk taking investment to win on the field. If it happens then that is just icing on their cake. If you were an investor in the asset you'd be happy with them, but for the life of me I can't see how any fan of the club can be happy with what they've done on the field or on the bricks and mortar infrastructure. As you say the stadium largely defines the stature of of a football club, so how can any fan be happy with the fact that in stadium terms, we are slowly but surely being overtaken, and surpassed by clubs that we're always some distance in our wake? It's called having a different opinion to you. Shocking hey? No wilkij, it's called being happy and content with mediocrity. Is this the new Liverpool way?
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And what opinion would that be ? That things aren't as bad as you two are making out.
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We might not get city or Chelsea type owners although I can't see why not we are an attractive club but failing that I would like to see owners with a little more ambition They do have ambition in spades, but it's all about growing the asset value, which they know they can do without risking a single additional dollar of their own money, and they've been very successful at that to date. They have no ambition to compete in the transfer market for top quality players and by logical extension, no ambition towards risk taking investment to win on the field. If it happens then that is just icing on their cake. If you were an investor in the asset you'd be happy with them, but for the life of me I can't see how any fan of the club can be happy with what they've done on the field or on the bricks and mortar infrastructure. As you say the stadium largely defines the stature of of a football club, so how can any fan be happy with the fact that in stadium terms, we are slowly but surely being overtaken, and surpassed by clubs that we're always some distance in our wake? It's called having a different opinion to you. Shocking hey? No wilkij, it's called being happy and content with mediocrity. Is this the new Liverpool way? No it's not. I don't think I've read anyone say they are happy with not getting a new stadium or our current situation. But people deal with it and can appreciate that something has been done whether it's the right thing or not. What else can we do? I'd also like to point out that if we had a shiny new stadium, that we're not guaranteed anything. I'm sure we'd all love your vision for the 'Liverpool way' (I love the way that old chestnut raises it's head to try and make fans look worse than others) and have some sugar daddy oligarch spunking all his money on us but we haven't so we deal with it. There doesn't seem to be a queue of them waiting to buy us either.
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Whether Liverpool FC play in a 100k seater state of the art stadium or a small corrugated 5k set up there is nothing any of us can do about it nor the way the team plays but we can express an opinion on it
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Did they not say ages ago that the Anfield Road expansion would be held off until we had regular CL football again?
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