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there was a lot of unnoticed performances there tonight especially off the ball. Henderson Lallana and Wijnaldum all had excellent movement and generally great covering except for that one moment in lapse in concentration where we shot ourselves in the foot and gifted them a goal.
Personally i think that was wijnaldums finest performance in a Liverpool shirt and he looked really convincing tonight hopefully it kicks him on. We have a CB partnership that can greatly grow with Lovren and Matip. LB is still a problem but hopefully we will get one in January.
We had no firmino and still have Can to come back, 2 huge players for us. In all great result tonight. Stand out moment was killing the game with great passing between players in the midfield just after chelsea were gaining momentum. Do you remember what you were saying on those playersa few weeks back? Yes and as I said before the other 3/4 times you quoted me on it, i said I will give credit when its due. I said there would be nothing more that would make me happy if they proved me wrong and yesterday they did. Thats one game we still have plenty of more games we need to have them keep that up. Theres positives from yesterday but we also need to keep grounded because the season has just begun. We cant have players slack off in the next game, we need them to keep putting in them shifts and improving. If they dont they will be subbed just like what happened to sturridge in the 2nd half when he became lazy and weak on the ball after having a good 1st half. One thing I will say is because Sturridge is unreliable and doesnt put a shift in like other players because it doesnt suit his style, we will need players like Lallana, Henderson and Wijnaldum and the rest of them to start getting goals so we dont become dependent on a forward who will get injured sometime throughout the season.
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there was a lot of unnoticed performances there tonight especially off the ball. Henderson Lallana and Wijnaldum all had excellent movement and generally great covering except for that one moment in lapse in concentration where we shot ourselves in the foot and gifted them a goal.
Personally i think that was wijnaldums finest performance in a Liverpool shirt and he looked really convincing tonight hopefully it kicks him on. We have a CB partnership that can greatly grow with Lovren and Matip. LB is still a problem but hopefully we will get one in January.
We had no firmino and still have Can to come back, 2 huge players for us. In all great result tonight. Stand out moment was killing the game with great passing between players in the midfield just after chelsea were gaining momentum. Do you remember what you were saying on those playersa few weeks back? Yes and as I said before the other 3/4 times you quoted me on it, i said I will give credit when its due. I said there would be nothing more that would make me happy if they proved me wrong and yesterday they did. Thats one game we still have plenty of more games we need to have them keep that up. Theres positives from yesterday but we also need to keep grounded because the season has just begun. We cant have players slack off in the next game, we need them to keep putting in them shifts and improving. If they dont they will be subbed just like what happened to sturridge in the 2nd half when he became lazy and weak on the ball after having a good 1st half. One thing I will say is because Sturridge is unreliable and doesnt put a shift in like other players because it doesnt suit his style, we will need players like Lallana, Henderson and Wijnaldum and the rest of them to start getting goals so we dont become dependent on a forward who will get injured sometime throughout the season. Maybe you should just trust the manager a bit. Anybody can have an opinion, no problem with that, however, you were on it over and over on a number of threads. You make opinions over the last game or from where the player comes despite the fact that one of the most talented and expensive players came fron Southampton.
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Great result and performance, Matip & Lovren looked strong and dominant in the air against a big Chelsea team.
We really dug in and took the sting out of the game when Chelsea got 1 back, good game management, a year ago we would have drawn or lost that game from 0-2 up.
I wish Lucas would stop giving away free kicks at the edge of our box with 5 minutes to go!!!! agree with your post. Absolutlely! Fook me. When Lucas came on my first thought was I would bet my house on him giving away a stupid free kick in a scoring position and getting booked. And he did. that is indeed scary with Lucas. but lucky we havent been punished lately cause of that . not certainly to an extent that we lost a game.
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I just hope all this positive attitudes will continue, even if we lose some games.
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Great result and performance, Matip & Lovren looked strong and dominant in the air against a big Chelsea team.
We really dug in and took the sting out of the game when Chelsea got 1 back, good game management, a year ago we would have drawn or lost that game from 0-2 up.
I wish Lucas would stop giving away free kicks at the edge of our box with 5 minutes to go!!!! agree with your post. that is indeed scary with Lucas. but lucky we havent been punished lately cause of that . not certainly to an extent that we lost a game. It's odd with Lucas as he has played quite a few games as a CB in the last year, and I can't remember seeing him kick or push someone over in the box give away a penalty, but as soon as he's on as a midfielder and just ourtide the box, it's like he'd got the ok to foul them and does !!!
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Case of stopping the opponent from getting into the box? As a DM, a foul means a free kick and possibly prevent a more certain goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team.
As a CB, a foul means penalty which could mean increasing the goal scoring chance of the opponent. Just a thought
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Case of stopping the opponent from getting into the box? As a DM, a foul means a free kick and possibly prevent a more certain goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team.
As a CB, a foul means penalty which could mean increasing the goal scoring chance of the opponent. Just a thought And that's my point, it's a mental thing with him, he doesn't have to foul the player to stop the shot/attack, quite often his tackles are on players who aren't about to score and he gives the attacking team a much better chance of scoring from a free kick than they had from free play. Like at the weekend with Hazard, he was running sideways across the edge of the box, with players blocking him going towards goal, Lucas trips him over and then Chelsea have a free kick central to our goal on the edge of the box with Luiz shooting, much more dangerous than just continuing to block off Hazard.
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Great result and performance, Matip & Lovren looked strong and dominant in the air against a big Chelsea team.
We really dug in and took the sting out of the game when Chelsea got 1 back, good game management, a year ago we would have drawn or lost that game from 0-2 up.
I wish Lucas would stop giving away free kicks at the edge of our box with 5 minutes to go!!!! agree with your post. that is indeed scary with Lucas. but lucky we havent been punished lately cause of that . not certainly to an extent that we lost a game. It's odd with Lucas as he has played quite a few games as a CB in the last year, and I can't remember seeing him kick or push someone over in the box give away a penalty, but as soon as he's on as a midfielder and just ourtide the box, it's like he'd got the ok to foul them and does !!! When you play in the midfield you have more chances of being late on players as you cover more space than when you play CD, thus he needs to foul more.
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He hardly touched Hazard who played for the foul. His job is to nip attacks in the bud before it gets into the box. One person covering the front of the back four, chances of him fouling is raised significantly. Maybe if the midfielders ahead of him aren't so easily bypassed, he wouldn't need to cover as much ground?
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He hardly touched Hazard who played for the foul. His job is to nip attacks in the bud before it gets into the box. One person covering the front of the back four, chances of him fouling is raised significantly. Maybe if the midfielders ahead of him aren't so easily bypassed, he wouldn't need to cover as much ground? You may have a point with the other midfielders being easily bypassed, but it does always seem to be Lucas giving away silly free kicks.
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